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Old 16 Jan 2006, 13:08 (Ref:1502340)   #1
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German Authorities to Charge Toyota Team Members

This is all related to the Italian investigation about an ex-Ferarri employee moving to Toyota and taking some software with him

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http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns16114.html

Also on that site is speculation that one of the men is Gustav Brunner. Could it be his reason for leaving a few months ago?
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 19:15 (Ref:1502587)   #2
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Well, it is related to the alleged incidents, which the Italian authorites also happen to be investigating.

It isn't related to the Italian investagtion as such.

Still, another part of the puzzle.
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 19:21 (Ref:1502589)   #3
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 19:22 (Ref:1502590)   #4
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 19:24 (Ref:1502592)   #5
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http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34855

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Old 16 Jan 2006, 19:27 (Ref:1502596)   #6
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So, that is the German prosecution. Interesting, will be intriguing to see how this develops.
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 20:17 (Ref:1502628)   #7
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Those are big names.... Ouch.
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 20:23 (Ref:1502632)   #8
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Well it wouldn't be the first time Toyota were caught cheating (turbocharger).But this is certainly on a different level.
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 00:41 (Ref:1502772)   #9
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Here is a link to a pitpass article, which has a further link in it. You will see that this problem was apparently well known within Toyota. One question is, how far up does it go? When Toyota officials from Japan toured the F1 complex, I'm sure you could eat off the floors, nothing would have been visible, so did Ove ever tell Katsuaki Watanabe (Toyota president), or any other high ranking official anything about it?

My guess is no.


http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=26872
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 01:47 (Ref:1502790)   #10
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You would be surprise how the top guys always know everything and are above the law because they simply don't get their hands dirty...
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 02:11 (Ref:1502791)   #11
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I love the way the article finishes with a link for "Click here for Toyota Merchandise".

CD-ROM, anyone?
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 06:33 (Ref:1502853)   #12
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You'd probably find a F2002 die-cast sitting within those Toyota Merchandise.
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 17:59 (Ref:1503247)   #13
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I like Toyota's attempt at denying any blame for themselves. These were some of their key employees at the time - Ove Andersson had been with them for decades, and had been caught cheating several times. With such a financial advatnage they should be able to finish 8th in the championship honestly....
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 19:17 (Ref:1503305)   #14
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Well it wouldn't be the first time Toyota were caught cheating (turbocharger)
what?have i been in a coma or is my short term memory as bad as i sometimes suspect
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Old 17 Jan 2006, 19:24 (Ref:1503310)   #15
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It was in the WRC championship and I think it was the air intake? (Not sure on that one, I'm sure someone will correct me.)

They had a clever system that conceled this secret device until one car crashed keeping it open.
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Old 18 Jan 2006, 13:49 (Ref:1503781)   #16
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Can't say i remember that.What year did it happen
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The air restrictor could be bypassed by a vent which was held on a spring. If the scrutes tried to look at the restrictor, the spring closed the vent so that it wouldn't be spotted. Something like that.
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This was as inevitable as night following day.
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