Customer RS Spyders.....

JAG · 4 May 2006, 17:19 (Ref:1600781)

....to be confirmed soon.

Cars will be run in the ALMS AND LMS.

http://www.infoscourse.org/article.php?sid=1988

The Badger · 4 May 2006, 17:30 (Ref:1600787)

I reckon Petersen will get their mits on one , LMP2 is certainly shaping up for next year !!!

JAG · 4 May 2006, 17:42 (Ref:1600794)

I'll be good to see some of the high quality GT2 teams finally move up a class or two.

I guess a (semi) factory backed Porsche GT2 deal was just to good to through away in the 'hope' they could make an impact with a customer Lola, Courage etc.

tonyroberts · 10 May 2006, 11:36 (Ref:1605002)

Is there any truth that Porsche will eventully develop this with turbos for LMP1 or is it just wishful thinking on my part to see them in the top class again. Surley with Honda and Peugeot coming back they would relish the challenge.

Fogelhund · 10 May 2006, 11:58 (Ref:1605025)

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Originally Posted by tonyroberts

Is there any truth that Porsche will eventully develop this with turbos for LMP1 or is it just wishful thinking on my part to see them in the top class again. Surley with Honda and Peugeot coming back they would relish the challenge.

It has been suggested that Porsche will indeed move to LMP1 next year. There is no suggestion that they will just put turbos on this car though, and I would expect them to evaluate a number of situations to determine what they think is the best option for them. I wouldn't doubt that they've had that V10 on the dyno some recently.

As far as American Le Mans Sereies teams.....

My expectation would be Flying Lizards and Petersen/White Lightning would be moving up.

I'm not sure who these LMS teams would be though.

**FIRE** · 10 May 2006, 15:34 (Ref:1605174)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

I'm not sure who these LMS teams would be though.

Konrad?
Manthey?

LouisTheShark · 10 May 2006, 15:55 (Ref:1605185)

Here is the original English press release.

http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...FS=ALMS-LEMANS

The lack of mention of a factory backed program for 2007 in this piece seems to strengthen a rumor I hear that Porsche may not return as a factory effort in 2007. Apparently, the LMP2 program is bleeding more PCNA cash than envisioned.

Dauer 962 · 10 May 2006, 15:59 (Ref:1605188)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Konrad?
Manthey?

Konrad is rumoured a while now, tough he has his garage full of Saleen´s. Manthey is close related to Weissach, but has completely no prototype experience. ( expect with closed roof DTM style prototype racing )

JAG · 10 May 2006, 16:42 (Ref:1605227)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisTheShark

Here is the original English press release.

http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...FS=ALMS-LEMANS

The lack of mention of a factory backed program for 2007 in this piece seems to strengthen a rumor I hear that Porsche may not return as a factory effort in 2007. Apparently, the LMP2 program is bleeding more PCNA cash than envisioned.

Porsche never intended to compete as a factory team in LMP2, in 2007.

But Penske said at Sebring they see the assocition with Porsche as a multi year, long term program., suggesting P1 eventually.

Wonder how many RS P2's will eventually be sold, it could quite possibly be anything upto 20 if theres a year on year production run, with the ALMS, LMS an JLMS markets.

GT-Eins · 11 May 2006, 04:20 (Ref:1605614)

At the target-price of around 600-800k€ I would be glad if they sell more than 2 per year

The Badger · 11 May 2006, 05:53 (Ref:1605629)

2 per year ..... on both sides of the pond would be nice .

panoz.lmp1 · 11 May 2006, 07:13 (Ref:1605670)

The RS Spyder woul dbe cost more than a million euros. For my information tPorsche ordered parts for 19 RS Spyder ....

**Bentley03** · 11 May 2006, 07:24 (Ref:1605675)

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Originally Posted by panoz.lmp1

The RS Spyder woul dbe cost more than a million euros. For my information tPorsche ordered parts for 19 RS Spyder ....

I know the Spyder's a handy piece of kit, but more than a million euros!!

You could buy four Radical SR9's for that sort of money couldn't you? Add to that the excitement of taking on the mighty Porsche RS Spyders. I know exactly where I'd spend my euros..........

**Dani Filth** · 11 May 2006, 08:02 (Ref:1605729)

buying a Courage C75 right ??

**Bentley03** · 11 May 2006, 09:12 (Ref:1605806)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

buying a Courage C75 right ??

.........wrong!

The Badger · 11 May 2006, 09:21 (Ref:1605811)

I'd be spending it on a Radical for that money but , I reckon overall the RS Spyder will be the better LMP2 car , not trying to take anything away from Radical or anybody else . Cuz its hard to beat the master !!!

**Adam43** · 11 May 2006, 12:09 (Ref:1605926)

As a comparison what did 962s customer cars cost? (I have no idea!)

panoz.lmp1 · 11 May 2006, 12:13 (Ref:1605929)

I calculated this in the last year. In todays prices the latest customer 962 costs around 700.000 EURO (i calculated with the german inflation rate).

The Badger · 11 May 2006, 12:19 (Ref:1605934)

I guess one of the biggest differances with buying a Porsche is . At every race they have a product support truck filled with parts and a lot of techs on hand to help customers with various issues .

Did you ever see a Saleen support truck , or a Courage support truck or an AER support truck at a race meeting ? Granted , there may be support staff , but not on the same level as Porsche .

There was many complaints about product support from Courage last year , or lack off !

Porsche is a car you buy and sit in it and drive as opposed to having to sort out all your own little problems ..... all in all , its a complete package .

Thats the differance ..... imo .

**Adam43** · 11 May 2006, 12:28 (Ref:1605940)

Good use of German inflation!

I guess the price increase of a customer Porsche prototype comes from the increase in sophistication. And maybe a little in reduced volumes.
It is a little disapointing that it is 40% more then (assuming all these figures are on the mark*). However if they get many takers then the price is right.

*old German currency pun

JAG · 11 May 2006, 13:14 (Ref:1605975)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bentley03

I know the Spyder's a handy piece of kit, but more than a million euros!!

You could buy four Radical SR9's for that sort of money couldn't you? Add to that the excitement of taking on the mighty Porsche RS Spyders. I know exactly where I'd spend my euros..........

F1 GTR's were sold at £1m apiece, with a dozen + sold.

For a complete package, with Porsche support and development, and a likely decent sell on price, £600-£700k is reasonable.

Nordic · 11 May 2006, 16:23 (Ref:1606077)

I suspect the future resale value of the Porsche will be higher than most of the others.
You can offset the higher purchase price against a better resale value.

bernard b · 11 May 2006, 18:05 (Ref:1606140)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

...Did you ever see a Saleen support truck , or a Courage support truck or an AER support truck at a race meeting ? Granted , there may be support staff , but not on the same level as Porsche ...

I think I read somewhere (Infoscourse probably, but I can't find it back)) that Courage had sent a truck full of spare part for their customers during the Istanbul meeting

bernard b · 11 May 2006, 18:07 (Ref:1606141)

but I agree with you, nothing like Porsche

**Adam43** · 11 May 2006, 18:45 (Ref:1606166)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nordic

I suspect the future resale value of the Porsche will be higher than most of the others.
You can offset the higher purchase price against a better resale value.

Yeah, buy one on finance and use it as the balloon!

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