[Tech Issue] The Return Of Michelin......

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Mekola

Me too. Two tyre suppliers are better than just one...

It should be open to any supplier that wants to make a suitable tyre IMHO. I am guessing that BE gets some sort of monetary advantage by having a single supplier.

[JeremySmith]

Originally Posted by Casper

It should be open to any supplier that wants to make a suitable tyre IMHO. I am guessing that BE gets some sort of monetary advantage by having a single supplier.

No but what BE is able to do is to
Influence Pirelli they are happy to provide what they are asked for

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Mekola

Me too. Two tyre suppliers are better than just one...

It didn't make the 2000s very much fun tbh. Years like 2003-2005 were some of the most boring years F1 has ever seen. And other series seem to manage fine with a single tyre.

Why does F1 need all of these fixes? Seems to be layers upon layers of patches.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by JeremySmith

No but what BE is able to do is to
Influence Pirelli they are happy to provide what they are asked for

I remember reading an article some time ago where the teams pay Pirelli for their tyres.
Pirelli pay Bernie/FOM about a similar amount for track side advertising etc.

I don't have a link to this story.

[Chaynes321]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

It didn't make the 2000s very much fun tbh. Years like 2003-2005 were some of the most boring years F1 has ever seen. And other series seem to manage fine with a single tyre.

Why does F1 need all of these fixes? Seems to be layers upon layers of patches.

Sorry I completely disagree with that this period is for me the best period of F1 iv watched

[bjohnsonsmith]

As Michelin and Pirelli go head to head for the F1 tyre contract, Pirelli's motorsport director Paul Hembery says there should be a huge increase in wheel size.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119745

[chillibowl]

from the article:

"The only area where they all seem to be very much in agreement is going for wider rear tyres, which when you see it on a car looks pretty dramatic," added Hembery.

first i have heard it suggested that there is consensus in this area. wider rears will no doubt make some of our fellow tenthers very happy!

[bjohnsonsmith]

What about this? Seems to cover all the bases.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

What about this? Seems to cover all the bases.

and a return to groved tyres?

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

and a return to groved tyres?

I don't know how groovy that would be?

[bjohnsonsmith]

So the decision to go with either Michelin or Pirelli is in Bernie's hands.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120048

[wnut]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

So the decision to go with either Michelin or Pirelli is in Bernie's hands.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120048

all it would do is "make a rock-hard tyre you could put on in January and take off in December

If that's all Michelin will do in supplying a tyre then they have my vote!

Rock hard tyres like this would improve the racing no end!

Kind of permanent half-wet scenario. Bring it on!

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by wnut

all it would do is "make a rock-hard tyre you could put on in January and take off in December

If that's all Michelin will do in supplying a tyre then they have my vote!

Rock hard tyres like this would improve the racing no end!

Kind of permanent half-wet scenario. Bring it on!

I've never understood why F1 needs so many compound variations at any given GP. In the mid to late '70s, iirc, that's when they started to use a softer compound, which I thought added something but it wasn't like the compulsory use of the Option tyre. That's something F1 borrowed from Champ Car.

With Champ Car and now IndyCar, there are just two compounds, Black and Reds; Reds being the Option tyre. None of this soft or super soft compound stuff etc. and it doesn't matter on what surface the race is taking place. That's what the driver's got. Also no tyre warmers and it must cost Pirelli loads to produce so many compounds.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I've never understood why F1 needs so many compound variations at any given GP. In the mid to late '70s, iirc, that's when they started to use a softer compound, which I thought added something but it wasn't like the compulsory use of the Option tyre. That's something F1 borrowed from Champ Car.

With Champ Car and now IndyCar, there are just two compounds, Black and Reds; Reds being the Option tyre. None of this soft or super soft compound stuff etc. and it doesn't matter on what surface the race is taking place. That's what the driver's got. Also no tyre warmers and it must cost Pirelli loads to produce so many compounds.

Me neither BJ, tyre marketing perhaps, makes the tyres a point of focus?

I agree though 2 compounds would be more than enough, that is what you have got, make it work. May even mix the racing up a bit and make it more dependent on driver skill and adaptability. Could only be good.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by wnut

Me neither BJ, tyre marketing perhaps, makes the tyres a point of focus?

I agree though 2 compounds would be more than enough, that is what you have got, make it work. May even mix the racing up a bit and make it more dependent on driver skill and adaptability. Could only be good.

I don't think it's to do with marketing wnut. At one point Bridgestone ruled the roost as motorsport's tyre manufacturer, for almost every genre of the sport but it became a financial millstone despite their global presence. Now it's only MotoGP I think and Firestone with IndyCar.