Homologation

[MitchZ06]

I've been wondering, is it possible to homologate a car last produced in 2006 for GTE class racing?

[Spyderman]

2.2.3 – lapsed Homologation
The homologation will become lapsed :
a/ The year following the stop of the production if a
minimum of 200 road cars has not been produced (50
for a "small manufacturer")
b/ 8 years after the stop of the production if at least a
minimum of 200 road cars has been produced (50 for
a "small manufacturer")

This assuming that it was originally homologated.

http://tentenths.com/forum/editpost....postid=2889995

[MitchZ06]

So if it wasnt previously homologated that'd be a negatory?

[Spyderman]

Here are the rules: http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/...egulations.pdf

[MitchZ06]

I guess 2.1.3 a\ pretty much sums it up....what do you think?

[Fogelhund]

Which car were you thinking of homologating?

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

I guess 2.1.3 a\ pretty much sums it up....what do you think?

Yes....but you know the ACO are quite partial to waivers these days. They handed 32 to some lucky winner.

[MitchZ06]

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Which car were you thinking of homologating?

Was having some talks about a GTE Holden Monaro with the LS5.5R but I'm not really expecting anything to come of it since its unlikely to get homologated.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

Was having some talks about a GTE Holden Monaro with the LS5.5R but I'm not really expecting anything to come of it since its unlikely to get homologated.

The 2011/12 version isn't something you would want to Homologate instead? Not meaning to sound harsh, but if the group involved can't afford to purchase a new version and build it up, there isn't a great deal of probability of making it a competitive car.

[MitchZ06]

Thats the thing, there isnt a new Monaro....Holden had the Coupe60 concept but theres been nothing more since. The Commodore is simply too big (4 door sedan...) however its not likely the ACO would allow a Holden ute, it'd certainly bring a ton of Australian stereotypes to Le Mans thats for sure.

[Tim the Grey]

Only if you use the back as a sheep dip...

[Racenut]

The ute is even bigger than the sedan. It uses the limo long wheelbase.

Its a pity the coupe 60 wasnt built... it was a good looking thing...mmm

[MitchZ06]

Indeed it is, too bad they havent put it into production...yet.

[bludvl_x19]

It's not a a Ute Mr ACO, it is a sportscar that has a very large boot in order to put the golf clubs in there.

And the golf cart...

[MitchZ06]

Its a sportscar/grand tourer in every sense of the word, just a bit out of production by 5 years...lol (the Monaro that is)

The ute down here is known as "the Australian 2 seater with a bloody big boot (trunk)" haha

[Racenut]

On a realistic note if you want a muscle car you should consider the camaro, its a simial size to the monaro. Just do a better job than the guy that putting together the GT3 camaro... it is just hot road car not a race car.

[MitchZ06]

We're looking at an Australian performance car not an American one (designed here and built in Canada...).

[Racenut]

Well good luck with it. Unless you can convince Holden to build a Coupe 60 you might have to look at building your own car and homologating it. Same as Panoz is doing. But you need to sell a few cars to meet LMS regs.

It would be good to see an Aussie team running international events. We tend to look too much in our own backyard.

Most Aussies would rather be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond.

[MitchZ06]

Bathurst 24Hour 2003
Imagine a pair of those belting around Le Mans, thats the basis behind the idea for the Monaro.

I've got a design ready for an Australian sportscar but I've really got no money to put into it and not sure where to look investor wise.

[Racenut]

Yes it was a pity that those cars didnt go overseas and race. but it is too late for them now.

[MitchZ06]

What regulation were they running? GT2 or GT3?

[Racenut]

Back then they were 'aussie rules' based VERY loosely on gt3.
Those cars were 2 door V8 supercars with a BIG engine. They went with the big engine so it would be low stress for the 24 hours. A V8 supercar engine wouldnt have lasted that long.

I wonder where those cars are now?

[MitchZ06]

Would be in collectors hands by now, I remember seeing #427 for sale a few years ago.

It does appear to be exactly as you say, a 2 door 7l V8 Supercar. No rear diffuser, basic V8SC aero (of the day), it wouldn't fare very well thru the corners against todays GT3 spec cars.

Its got me thinking, the rules for GT3 are very loose so would it stand to reason a new GT3 spec Monaro (using a 2006 car) could be possibly homologated? hmmm.....

[MitchZ06]

*Double post*

[rich07]

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

What regulation were they running? GT2 or GT3?

Neither . More so GT2 spec but the funny thing was those cars had a C5R race engine out of a GTS/GT1 class C5R Corvette . But at bathurst the Monaro would slaughter everything in a straight line but up the top of the mountain in the twistier parts the Ferrari 360GT had the advantage.

Shame no one built a ACO spec Monaro, I know there was rumour about someone taking a Monaro to Le Mans at the height of the Monaro's racing career but it seems it was all talk. Those 427 Monaros would've needed to go on a crash diet to get down to the GT weights, from memory they were about 1500kg?