Circuit Safety in NZ - Page 2

**Woolley** · 28 Nov 2012, 22:44 (Ref:3172800)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

If there's one thing I can't stand more than anything it's vandalism. I reckon if they get caught they should be made to repair all their damage, and then some!

Then the locals can give them a good kicking if they don't do a good job

Just stick them in the tyre barrier. Suitable punishment and extra cushioning in the event of an off...

NZSTfan · 28 Nov 2012, 22:51 (Ref:3172806)

gotta be better than cotton wool

Bill Brown · 28 Nov 2012, 23:39 (Ref:3172833)

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Originally Posted by NZSTfan

gotta be better than cotton wool

dont be silly you know cant mention those words on this forum and anyway you cant make barriers out of it.

It's what you wrap some of the drivers in.

smokin'joe · 28 Nov 2012, 23:45 (Ref:3172839)

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Originally Posted by Goat Boy

If there's one thing I can't stand more than anything it's vandalism. I reckon if they get caught they should be made to repair all their damage, and then some!

Then the locals can give them a good kicking if they don't do a good job

was talking to the arresting officer the other day........they know who the young guys are but can't prove who lit the fire, so they are getting away with it .

Goat Boy · 29 Nov 2012, 01:26 (Ref:3172873)

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Originally Posted by smokin'joe

was talking to the arresting officer the other day........they know who the young guys are but can't prove who lit the fire, so they are getting away with it .

They could just accidentally mention their names and addresses to interested parties...

douglasjames671 · 29 Nov 2012, 01:29 (Ref:3172875)

Hi all, has anyone got a link to Jonny Macs prang . . . I cannot seem to find any info except what I read on here.

As an aside to that, this is one Aussie who sends a huge well done to the NZ promoters, track owners, and competitors . . . I can seriously see this series eclipsing V8 Supercars in no time at all

NZSTfan · 29 Nov 2012, 01:42 (Ref:3172879)

here you go..

http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Motorsport...2/Default.aspx

Hope this works and welcome to the series

Reload · 29 Nov 2012, 02:19 (Ref:3172886)

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Originally Posted by douglasjames671

Hi all, has anyone got a link to Jonny Macs prang . . . I cannot seem to find any info except what I read on here.

As an aside to that, this is one Aussie who sends a huge well done to the NZ promoters, track owners, and competitors . . . I can seriously see this series eclipsing V8 Supercars in no time at all

Seriously ......... and in no time at all ???

STEALTHY · 29 Nov 2012, 02:27 (Ref:3172888)

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Originally Posted by NZSTfan

here you go..

http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Motorsport...2/Default.aspx

Hope this works and welcome to the series

Anyway to play that when not in NZ?

adbutler · 29 Nov 2012, 02:47 (Ref:3172895)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Anyway to play that when not in NZ?

It's on Johnny Macs facebook page here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=430775320309537

douglasjames671 · 29 Nov 2012, 03:23 (Ref:3172904)

Thanks for the link . . . he is a lucky bloke

Point2 · 29 Nov 2012, 05:30 (Ref:3172920)

huge hit yes I agree.

Note that his seat or seat mounts broke???

Mr Revhead · 29 Nov 2012, 05:34 (Ref:3172921)

I wondered that too, but I've only seen it on my phone so wasn't 100% sur

peckstar · 29 Nov 2012, 07:32 (Ref:3172940)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Anyway to play that when not in NZ?

Do you like how they tell us that after they show the add

Club racer · 29 Nov 2012, 20:17 (Ref:3173202)

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Originally Posted by Mr Revhead

I wondered that too, but I've only seen it on my phone so wasn't 100% sur

Does look like a failure of some sort on that clip. Poor guy loses his specs too!

STEALTHY · 30 Nov 2012, 03:28 (Ref:3173360)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Do you like how they tell us that after they show the add

Nothing played for me, it popped up 'must be in NZ' and just stayed black (i didn't see the exact message)

DRIFDY · 30 Nov 2012, 03:51 (Ref:3173365)

https://www.facebook.com/#!/StancedLowCo?fref=ts

intresting but aprently not true

smokin'joe · 30 Nov 2012, 05:15 (Ref:3173380)

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Originally Posted by DRIFDY

https://www.facebook.com/#!/StancedLowCo?fref=ts

intresting but aprently not true

but it must be:

<LI id=.reactRoot[3].[1][2][1]{comment172976862844498_570785} class="UFIRow UFIComment" data-ft='{"tn":"R1"}'>

Mark Benny thy bn planning it 4 agez now i found out like 2 months ago it waz closing due 2 lack ov funds. we shud take tht **** over charge 5 buk a head n go fkn nuts so we dnt hav ta rip up th streets gv us th track!!! wud b fukn sick!
2 hours ago · Like

tools. Levels might be tight for funds with the cost of resurfacing, but if the club couldn't afford to run it, i'm sure someone would step up and foot the bill..................... and turn it into just another private track.

Bill Brown · 1 Dec 2012, 19:17 (Ref:3173940)

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Originally Posted by smokin'joe

but it must be:

<LI id=.reactRoot[3].[1][2][1]{comment172976862844498_570785} class="UFIRow UFIComment" data-ft='{"tn":"R1"}'>

Mark Benny thy bn planning it 4 agez now i found out like 2 months ago it waz closing due 2 lack ov funds. we shud take tht **** over charge 5 buk a head n go fkn nuts so we dnt hav ta rip up th streets gv us th track!!! wud b fukn sick!
2 hours ago · Like

tools. Levels might be tight for funds with the cost of resurfacing, but if the club couldn't afford to run it, i'm sure someone would step up and foot the bill..................... and turn it into just another private track.

I can assure you that Levels is definatly NOT shutting down.

Nor is it in any financial difficulty.

And it is NOT FOR SALE.

In fact there is a job vacancy listed on trademe if anyone is interested.

Old_Bob · 2 Dec 2012, 09:16 (Ref:3174123)

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Originally Posted by Point2

huge hit yes I agree.

Note that his seat or seat mounts broke???

That's interesting & if this is true... With all of the recent focus on up-sizing roll cage diameter & strength for basic 'Schedule A' cars, I'm quite surprised that these mounts have obviously been designed under spec...
No vehicle would pass a basic T.S.A cert for use at open road speeds if they were designed with such a fault.
Everyone demands safer tracks and now it looks like they have jeopardised driver safety to save a few pounds (woops... kgs

on a so called ''structure of the future"???
Has anyone heard of any other 'under strength' or fatigued areas they should worry about as these cars click up the ks'?
Please take into account when criticizing this view, that I have not seen a photo of the broken mounts, so I may be over reacting?
But safe tracks start with the design & construction of the vehicles that race on them..

Goat Boy · 2 Dec 2012, 20:06 (Ref:3174282)

Maybe we need another thread about car safety....

I have not heard what actually broke, but if it was seat mounts I'd be interested to know why, how or whether they were different to "normal" race seat mounts. Although JM was going pretty quick when he hit, and it was sideways, but no way the seat should have moved like that.

Remember years ago in F1 they decided to put tether straps on the wheels to stop them flying off in the event of an accident, these were composite and supposedly very strong, but soon after we saw one come adrift and a wheel go bouncing off after a shunt.

Sometimes maybe a bit more engineering calculation and quality control needs to be used for driver safety measures.

Just my thoughts anyway.

Old_Bob · 3 Dec 2012, 07:40 (Ref:3174489)

[QUOTE=Goat Boy;3174282]Maybe we need another thread about car safety..

Sorry about that.. Bit off topic. Not an engineer, so I probably couldn't add any more without shooting myself in the foot...

Blackpearl · 3 Dec 2012, 08:39 (Ref:3174505)

all harness lap belts had to be modified to complie. Seats move and under that impact im not shocked at it doing that.

That crash was caused by his team doing a stupid thing with a brake hose and nothing more.

smokin'joe · 3 Dec 2012, 08:45 (Ref:3174509)

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Originally Posted by Blackpearl

all harness lap belts had to be modified to complie.

modified in a good way ???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

Seats move and under that impact im not shocked at it doing that.

did it break?? someone mentioned it did, which is a concern if it was a decent brand of seat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

That crash was caused by his team doing a stupid thing with a brake hose and nothing more.

if that's the case, then i hope everyone chips in for the repair bill.

Icarus_nz · 3 Dec 2012, 09:00 (Ref:3174513)

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Originally Posted by Old_Bob

But safe tracks start with the design & construction of the vehicles that race on them..

I'd like to add maintanance and preperation to that list.

Otherwise see Blackpearl's post.

Story ends.

Given that JM walked away from a shunt that has been described as ranging from 197 to 240kph I'd say all the safety stuff worked pretty well.
No need for a witch hunt methinks

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