2012 Japanese Super GT - Page 21

aneesh99 · 29 Apr 2012, 18:58 (Ref:3067078)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

I wish the Japanese could build one to their country with the same specs as the DTM tubs

That's the problem in itself. The GTA apparently agreed to all the monocoque regs (that were set by the Germans by the way), so they (Dome presumably) would produce the monocoque to German dimensions, weight etc, but they were having none of it. A bit unreasonable in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by TF110

Hopefully they can still reach an agreement. Maybe BMW will lead the way with a GT500 machine and the other German makes will follow suit.

I really can't see that happening even though I would kill for it to happen. The Japanese don't forget if someone offends them any time soon, so unless the ITR gets a change at the top, like I said, unlikely. That or they come back bowing dogeza and apologising like mad men.

NaBUru38 · 29 Apr 2012, 20:32 (Ref:3067121)

I'm sure the Japanese will love to see Motoytma back in Le Mans driving a Nissan. Plus, they love strangely shaped things ^_^

TF110 · 29 Apr 2012, 21:42 (Ref:3067163)

I don't think there is anything stopping a German make from building a GT500 car is there? If BMW are really interested in SGT, then it may happen.

aneesh99 · 30 Apr 2012, 21:38 (Ref:3067657)

Not sure how welcome they'll be but still viable I guess.

On a slight tangent, I want to hear more about the rumblings from the GT300 guys about GT3's, any news on upcoming BoP for the GT3's? It's just a little cheesy that GT300 cars are being beaten soundly in their OWN category

alexkiller8 · 1 May 2012, 00:34 (Ref:3067696)

some time ago i've read here a post by japanese samurai that in gt300 is used the FIA bop

TF110 · 1 May 2012, 05:23 (Ref:3067735)

It seems they have to make up a big difference in HP. If the BOP of the FIA is being used the GT3 cars are making power closer to GT500 levels. As for the SGT guys being mad at the DTM guys, I thought it was more along the lines of the organizers of DTM upsetting them, not the Makes.

alexkiller8 · 1 May 2012, 10:16 (Ref:3067804)

before the site update, there was written in gt300 section the weight and restrictor used for each car... in 2011 the GT500 cars had still an around 490hp of power output, i have little doubts that some gt300 car like the 458 were developing more than 400hp! so i guess that isn't a so hard problem if gt300 and gt500 car have the same poweroutput; we all know that because of less weight and hugely better aero a gt500 car will be at least 5 seconds faster than the best gt300.

kurski · 1 May 2012, 11:06 (Ref:3067816)

Why is the Super GT (GT500) as the teams have only one car?. I would much rather that two car teams.

alexkiller8 · 1 May 2012, 12:10 (Ref:3067834)

in 2008 nismo team ran with 2 cars; however you have to think to the managment of GT500 cars like the one used in motoGP! ex. nismo builds the gt-r gt500 and uses one car as factory car for the official team (the #23 car of nismo team) then year by year lease the cars (and nissan drivers too) to some other trusted teams that ask the leasing for the car, these private teams run in the season using the main sponsor budget (the #12 uses the budget given by impul/calsonic etc...). Same happens with toyota lexus, they have an official team that uses 2 cars in 2 different teams (the tom's #36 and le mans team #6) and some other private team that lease year by year the sc430 GT500. As happens in motoGP, usually the cars used by official team are the first to receive the updates that some race later will be used also by private teams. Honda uses an other managment way, until some year ago honda had the super aguri team as referment/official team but now they support impartially all private teams that do the leasing for the HSV-010 (as you could see, this year all honda cars use new bodykit and new rear wing; last year at example the new front bodykit and swan neck rear wing were used by the #36 car first and some race later by other lexus cars).

aneesh99 · 1 May 2012, 13:41 (Ref:3067874)

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Originally Posted by TF110

As for the SGT guys being mad at the DTM guys, I thought it was more along the lines of the organizers of DTM upsetting them, not the Makes.

True, I should have made that distinction. Though the friction over the engine formula seemed to be coming from BMW...

I wish both sides would just swallow their pride and give the fans what they want!

MagVanisher · 1 May 2012, 14:37 (Ref:3067897)

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Originally Posted by aneesh99

True, I should have made that distinction. Though the friction over the engine formula seemed to be coming from BMW...

I wish both sides would just swallow their pride and give the fans what they want!

Agreed to that! Still, if they're already competing each other, what would happen to Grand-Am. I mean, they will have a DTM series in the US, but will they ever be a crossover between DTM and Super GT?

If Grand-Am can't do a crossover, I think I'll be disappointed! DTM and Super GT should invite Trans-Am instead of Grand-Am...

And speaking of GT3 cars, I hope the JAF can lower their performance so that they have the same parity as GT300 cars (and a certain DP prototype), but not lowered enough to have the same performance as those Grand-Am GT cars. And I'm talking about the Audi R8 competing in Grand-Am.

tbz · 3 May 2012, 06:48 (Ref:3068595)

Round2 Fuji - Qualifying Session Results

MagVanisher · 3 May 2012, 07:06 (Ref:3068602)

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Originally Posted by tbz

Round2 Fuji - Qualifying Session Results

Good thing the Garaiya is in the Top 3, but man it seems that the Audi R8 is dominating! Even the GSR Hatsune Miku BMW Z4 is struggling...

TF110 · 3 May 2012, 07:37 (Ref:3068613)

Was it wet qualifying? Or mixed conditions? Looks like Dunlops tires work well (pole in both classes), as does Bridgestone! That was a weak point last year for them wasn't it?

tbz · 3 May 2012, 07:38 (Ref:3068614)

more or less wet

TF110 · 3 May 2012, 07:48 (Ref:3068617)

I see. I edited my post. Looks like Dunlop's tires are good in the wet, both classes took pole on their tire. Will it stay wet for the race?

tbz · 3 May 2012, 07:55 (Ref:3068622)

Indeed, those Dunlop tires looking really good, but the race weather forecast says "Changing conditions expected"

tbz · 3 May 2012, 18:30 (Ref:3068944)

Livestream for the Race tomorrow morning 5:00am GMT (7:00am CET)

TF110 · 4 May 2012, 04:22 (Ref:3069080)

Hopefully the stream stays working!

MagVanisher · 4 May 2012, 04:37 (Ref:3069083)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Hopefully the stream stays working!

Um, I think the stream shows "403: Forbidden" on my browser... Do you have the same error too?

kurski · 4 May 2012, 05:10 (Ref:3069092)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Um, I think the stream shows "403: Forbidden" on my browser... Do you have the same error too?

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/49100/1/s...am-online.html

MagVanisher · 4 May 2012, 05:14 (Ref:3069093)

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Originally Posted by kurski

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/49100/1/s...am-online.html

I tried that. It's not working too!

tbz · 4 May 2012, 05:20 (Ref:3069094)

Stream works fine (Chrome)

MagVanisher · 4 May 2012, 05:27 (Ref:3069098)

I tried both Chrome and Firefox... But it still says forbidden to me!

tbz · 4 May 2012, 05:42 (Ref:3069101)

That's strange :/

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