ALMS 2012 Discussion - Page 62

vogelmann4 · 22 Jan 2012, 16:30 (Ref:3015330)

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Originally Posted by 911targa

Here's the first poster of 2012 12h Sebring
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...MS_Artwork.jpg

Notice the 2012 spec RSR in the distance, is that Falken with new liveries or a suggestion of a new GT3 RSR team announcement?

Nice to see all the ALMS cars pushed away to the back- minus the vette of course

Dyson Mazda · 22 Jan 2012, 16:47 (Ref:3015336)

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Originally Posted by vogelmann4

Nice to see all the ALMS cars pushed away to the back- minus the vette of course

Dyson, BMW, and FLM (and maybe Risi) are all there

Jonerz · 22 Jan 2012, 17:56 (Ref:3015367)

I'm hoping RSR comes back for the exhaust note alone, even if they retire while the race is still in diapers. As for the unannounced GTE program I would wager West Racing Lamborghini or Risi Competizione.

Chris

vogelmann4 · 23 Jan 2012, 01:39 (Ref:3015520)

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Originally Posted by Dyson Mazda

Dyson, BMW, and FLM (and maybe Risi) are all there

yeah as dots in the back.

Articus · 23 Jan 2012, 02:06 (Ref:3015526)

Hope its Risi. ALMS wont be the same without them.The ESM driver linueps jsut arent strong enough to go toe to toe with the likes of Jörg Bergmeister, Antonio Garcia, Müller, Long etc for a full race distance.

Deleted · 23 Jan 2012, 21:44 (Ref:3015904)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

As for the unannounced GTE program I would wager West Racing Lamborghini or Risi Competizione.

Risi is of course more likely but the West guys hinted a while ago that they might come back at some point. Not sure how they'd dare, the whole project was bit of a farce (in efx Atlas style), massive ambitions but also poor execution. The only thing I remember about their campaign last year was some Sebring onboard of GTC-class NGT Porsche and how very easily it overtook that Lambo on the straight!!

But the funniest thing is that their Lambo which only participated two races scored just five points less than the two full-season Jaguars

pederb · 23 Jan 2012, 23:24 (Ref:3015949)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Risi is of course more likely but the West guys hinted a while ago that they might come back at some point. Not sure how they'd dare, the whole project was bit of a farce (in efx Atlas style), massive ambitions but also poor execution. The only thing I remember about their campaign last year was some Sebring onboard of GTC-class NGT Porsche and how very easily it overtook that Lambo on the straight!!

But the funniest thing is that their Lambo which only participated two races scored just five points less than the two full-season Jaguars

We will see now that Reitner have announced that he want a spot at 24 LM with a new 2012 Gallardo GTE

Deleted · 23 Jan 2012, 23:40 (Ref:3015958)

On that "we'll be back" message West posted a while ago they also said it' would be the same car as last year, with more power... I'm not sure how much more life they can breath to that old converted GT3 Gallardo

Rodger Davies · 23 Jan 2012, 23:42 (Ref:3015959)

last year they claimed they were waiting for a new engine to arrive that was designed to GT2 specs; maybe it finally has?

Deleted · 23 Jan 2012, 23:49 (Ref:3015963)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

last year they claimed they were waiting for a new engine to arrive that was designed to GT2 specs; maybe it finally has?

They also claimed to be back at Lime Rock last year but that never really materialized, so my faith for them isn't the biggest.

Nevertheless, variety is always good and if they have really found something to boost the performance of the car, I'll welcome them back. And if RSR returns they also need someone to battle for the "backmarker trophy" now that the Robertsons are unlikely to come back and you never know about Lotus's plans...

Purist · 24 Jan 2012, 00:25 (Ref:3015974)

Well, with the Robertsons at least, the pro car could be quite effective. It didn't hurt at Lime Rock that 3-4 GT2 cars knocked themselves out. Even so, the Doran Ford GTR was NOT a bad car by any means.

Deleted · 24 Jan 2012, 00:37 (Ref:3015978)

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Originally Posted by Purist

Well, with the Robertsons at least, the pro car could be quite effective. It didn't hurt at Lime Rock that 3-4 GT2 cars knocked themselves out. Even so, the Doran Ford GTR was NOT a bad car by any means.

For sure it wasn't, and in fact the Robertsons have been my 2nd favourite team in ALMS for a some time now. That's why I'm quite saddened by the whole budget thing, especially after 2011 which proved to be their best season yet.

But let's face it, the second car raced by mr and ms Robertson was never that competitive to begin with, for obvious reasons. They usually still beat the mighty Cats though...

HJJ · 24 Jan 2012, 01:49 (Ref:3016000)

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Originally Posted by Purist

Even so, the Doran Ford GTR was NOT a bad car by any means.

The "H" Craft/Doran Ford GTR IS an excellent race car. And the two cars rebuilt after Petit would be at the sharp end of the grid this year. You wouldn't believe who over the past year wanted to drive the cars if DR had the budget to run them.

**skycafe** · 24 Jan 2012, 02:24 (Ref:3016008)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

last year they claimed they were waiting for a new engine to arrive that was designed to GT2 specs; maybe it finally has?

If I remember correctly, the chassis wasn't GT2 spec either, just GT3 with GT2 slicks. I think that lead to the failure they had with an upright or stub axel or whatever. A Lambo in the states would be good for the series, but not their Lambo. A well funded and planned team is needed.

Canada ALMS fan · 26 Jan 2012, 00:53 (Ref:3017153)

John Dagys tweeted there could be as many 7 LMP2 in the ALMS this year!
I really hope this is true!

**joeb** · 26 Jan 2012, 02:27 (Ref:3017168)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

John Dagys tweeted there could be as many 7 LMP2 in the ALMS this year!
I really hope this is true!

Hmm, any speculation as to who the newcomers would be?

Level 5 (x2)
Black Swan
Conquest

That's 4 confirmed, then who

Dempsey?
Newman Hass?
Ian Dawson?
Other?

lms · 26 Jan 2012, 12:27 (Ref:3017297)

I think Dagys tweeted earlier that n-h are doing other things this year. But 7 teams sounds bloody awesome!

(could be libra racing also)

Coach Ep · 26 Jan 2012, 13:44 (Ref:3017332)

Or a LMPC team stepping up? Genoa perhaps?

Jonerz · 26 Jan 2012, 21:27 (Ref:3017474)

Alex Job to make a "shocking" GTE announcement according to Hindy in Rolex GT qualifying moments ago. Battery Tender plus an interesting factory?

Chris

AGD · 26 Jan 2012, 21:42 (Ref:3017484)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

Alex Job to make a "shocking" GTE announcement according to Hindy in Rolex GT qualifying moments ago. Battery Tender plus an interesting factory?

Chris

Maybe a monied driver wants to go GTE racing. Perhaps there is some factory support involved. On the other hand, perhaps there are quite a few 2011 spec Porsche GTE cars available on the cheap?

Jonerz · 26 Jan 2012, 23:22 (Ref:3017529)

Well, the ALMS website teased a manufacturer program supported by an existing series partner. Battery Tender is an existing series partner and Hindy called the GTE announcement shocking...

If AJR isn't the program trailed by ALMS, I'd like to see what they do and moreover what happens to the JDX Racing types when GTC goes away. A replacement sub-GT class? GTE-Am?

Chris

Deleted · 27 Jan 2012, 10:32 (Ref:3017703)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

Well, the ALMS website teased a manufacturer program supported by an existing series partner. Battery Tender is an existing series partner and Hindy called the GTE announcement shocking...

If AJR isn't the program trailed by ALMS, I'd like to see what they do and moreover what happens to the JDX Racing types when GTC goes away. A replacement sub-GT class? GTE-Am?

Chris

You mean this short message from december?

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2. Look for a brand new, manufacturer-backed team in GT: two cars with unprecedented sponsorship activation from an existing Series marketing partner.

In any case, as I've been saying all along AJR would be a huge asset in GT2. That's where they belong, not in some cup spec class.

Rodger Davies · 27 Jan 2012, 12:22 (Ref:3017752)

phew, I was really worried that message was going to refer to the electric GT thing they mentioned before. Would make even more sense if it's described as "shocking" (sorry, I'll get my coat). Anything else would be a huge plus, would be great to see AJR back where they belong. I'm going for left field and guessing Porsche Hybrid. Anyone else?

As for the 7 P2s, I'd guess Libra and Dempsey are included but would be great to see another. If John discovered this at Daytona, I wonder if the link is to a driver or team that's present there? Suppose 'driver' doesn't narrow it down much...

Fogelhund · 27 Jan 2012, 12:22 (Ref:3017753)

ESM run BMW's, after the RLL program funding is cancelled?

lms · 27 Jan 2012, 12:29 (Ref:3017758)

what p2 car will black swan have?

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