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Old 31 May 2014, 11:09 (Ref:3413101)   #251
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Surely the simplest solution would be to add weight high up on the "B" pillar of the commodores.
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Old 31 May 2014, 13:34 (Ref:3413146)   #252
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That's true, but you would think that the category would want Ford to stay. How did this oversight on weight distribution eventuate in the first place in a supposedly "technical parity" formula?
Ford could have changed it when starting the CoF
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Old 31 May 2014, 14:22 (Ref:3413168)   #253
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Roger Penske keen on V8 Supercars entry
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motor...531-zrtrz.html

Probably decide in the next month or so
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Old 31 May 2014, 22:36 (Ref:3413385)   #254
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Not trolling at all, it is a legitimate comment.........you must see demons in every closet.
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Probably decide in the next month or so
There is a story around suggesting that talks may or may not have happened with a former Ford team now running a make of car without the blessing of the importer... I bet the price might be sub $40m though
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Old 1 Jun 2014, 01:19 (Ref:3413423)   #256
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There is a story around suggesting that talks may or may not have happened with a former Ford team now running a make of car without the blessing of the importer... I bet the price might be sub $40m though
Not sure where you get your information from but I will call Bullshit on this one. The DJR deal is done, has been for a while, Erebus aren't going anywhere either(not yet anyway!). Back to the powder room champ..... Of course if any of this actually happened..........or is happening.
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An alternative solution would be allowing Ford to make fibre glass or carbon fibre panels and ballast them up. That way only 20% of the cars need the ballast not 80% and it would be very cost effective to make the glass/carbon panels. This method is adopted in a lot of parity based race series' at clubsport and national levels.

Only downside is the crash damage would not look as similar to a road car, but these COTF cars respond strangely to even minor impacts anyway, so I don't see that as being a big issue.
It's not quite that straightforward as Commodore is one of the few running both aluminium boot and bonnet. So you would have most of the field have the cost of manufacturing panels. Receiving 'free' steel ones from the usual deals with the manufacturer would be hard to give up.

I seem to remember someone saying the Volvo roof panel is aluminium, which would further cloud the situation if that's the case.
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Representatives from SBR, FPR, and DJR agreed to these rules, so people who know a lot more than we do decided this was OK.

Not sure why people here think they know better than people with their own skin in the game building and racing the cars...
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Old 3 Jun 2014, 14:12 (Ref:3414781)   #260
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New 2015 Ford Falcon spied
Meanwhile, back on planet earth, could this be the basis of the 2015 FPR effort if Ford funding continues?

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/n...602-zrux8.html
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Representatives from SBR, FPR, and DJR agreed to these rules, so people who know a lot more than we do decided this was OK.

Not sure why people here think they know better than people with their own skin in the game building and racing the cars...
Umm, this is an internet forum where ANYONE can discuss issues.
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Umm, this is an internet forum where ANYONE can discuss issues.
Of course they can and I am not here to take away that right, but there are people here who keep banging the drum ad infinitum as if the teams themselves haven't thought to, or have somehow rolled over in deference to Roland Dane on the bodywork issue...
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Interesting to read in AA... that the model Ford being raced in season 2015 and beyond may still be up in the air. In a typical AA story, Mr Edwards was asked his opinion, and his suggestion was that the team may switch to a Mondeo if that is Ford's wont... while Mr Story at DJR suggested that if DJR were to run a Ford product next season, that would be sticking with the Falcon.

There seems a large issue with the 'new' Falcon having the 'Aston Martin' nose like others in the Ford family, and how very different the current FG design... so presuming the new model is run in V8SC to maintain its 'real world' relevance, another homologation may need to be undertaken...

Sounds all a bit wishy washy still...

The wonderment for me is if Ford chooses not to continue to support FPR & the category ongoing... who will undertake the Ford homologations... or will the FG Falcon be 'it'
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Either way, they'd be silly to persist with the FG.

With the avent of homologating a facelift, they can perhaps use some trick lightweight headlights like everyone else
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Either way, they'd be silly to persist with the FG.
One wonders what the cost of homologating a headlight/taillight refresh retaining turret and doors vs a whole new model.

Surely it has to be half a mill difference in price if not more?
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little bit of public discusion about the "haunted hills" track going on and its potential economic benefits

Wont come to much though
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AA reports this week... that a DJR purchase is still on... with Marcos Ambrose preferred as headline pilot... alongside Mr Pye...

The sponsor train has apparently come in too, with former longtime DJR sponsor Shell the named partner in this alleged new venture...

Presumably this shall see Wilson Security invited not to come back...

Why would Penske be leaking this stuff... or is it an elaborate smoke screen for other activities?
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AA reports this week... that a DJR purchase is still on... with Marcos Ambrose preferred as headline pilot... alongside Mr Pye...

The sponsor train has apparently come in too, with former longtime DJR sponsor Shell the named partner in this alleged new venture...

Presumably this shall see Wilson Security invited not to come back...

Why would Penske be leaking this stuff... or is it an elaborate smoke screen for other activities?
Or is AA making up stories again to gain sales??
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How long before we hear rumours of a possible Mobil backed entry for Murph...... OMG Murph v Ambrose, Holden v Ford, Shell v Mobil, I think my head will explode!!!!!!

Put it on the cover, lets run with it!
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Or is AA making up stories again to gain sales??
Not sure its working, circulation of the printed magazing is a pooftteenth over 10,000 copies these days... It was almost 15,000 only a few short years ago

Maybe NextMedia should buy the magazibe , to confirm its fate
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We can dream... Shell and Mobil liveries from that era are some of the classic looking cars.

How good would it be if DJR did a retro livery for the Shell Helix car and HRT did a Mobil livery for the 1996 livery!
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How good would it be if DJR did a retro livery for the Shell Helix car and HRT did a Mobil livery for the 1996 livery!
Sounds good to me ... and the Nissan Norton Hornets could run 1 car in Winfeld livery, the other in Peter Jackson - with "Norton Hornets" replacing "Winfield Racing" and Peter Jackson" respectively

Change of mind - have the Hornets run in the earlier red/blue/white "Nissan" livery, with Norton Hornets replacing the Nissan.
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Yeah and we need Seton in the PJ car late in the race with a rain shower
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Does this testing tell a few stories for 2015 and beyond or possibly not.

http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/06/12/...sland-raceway/
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Does this testing tell a few stories for 2015 and beyond or possibly not.

http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/06/12/...sland-raceway/
DJR dont currently have a Dunlop series FG in their shed for someone to test do they?

Hopefully MSR made a few bob from this test, so Mr Hazelwood can complete the season
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