Crystal Palace - Page 5

Vitesse · 23 Sep 2004, 21:12 (Ref:1105392)

Thanks. I've been digging a bit further and have come up with quite a bit more - Chula's books are particularly useful in this regard. Once I've got all my sources sorted perhaps we can compare notes?

ss_collins · 12 Oct 2004, 11:47 (Ref:1122053)

Heres something to add to your collections - due out in March next year, it covers all the bits prfitts book missed out - whilst nowhere near as comprehensive has lots of bits that have either been forgotten or not documented properly elsewhere.

Andrew Kitson · 12 Oct 2004, 11:59 (Ref:1122071)

Wow! Yes will definitely get that one Sam.

Gnomex · 12 Oct 2004, 18:30 (Ref:1122460)

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Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Wow! Yes will definitely get that one Sam.

Yes indeed. Do you have any details yet - price? publisher? release date?

ss_collins · 12 Oct 2004, 21:42 (Ref:1122649)

Veloce publishing, Â£9.99, March 05.

To whet you appetites let me draw you attention to the pic on the bottom right of the cover...

Anuauto · 13 Oct 2004, 10:15 (Ref:1123020)

and the bottom left of the cover and your earlier post, that already answered 2 of the 3 questions...?

ss_collins · 13 Oct 2004, 11:31 (Ref:1123090)

play nice KL -

Kvadrat · 13 Jan 2005, 09:44 (Ref:1199678)

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Originally Posted by Rob29

1938
Jun 26 London Grand Prix
Aug 14 Crystal Palace Cup

June 26 and August 14 were Sundays. Are these dates correct?

June 28 is given for London Grand Prix at The Golden Era of Grand Prix Racing site (http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/gp382.htm).

Rob29 · 13 Jan 2005, 10:41 (Ref:1199710)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kvadrat

June 26 and August 14 were Sundays. Are these dates correct?

June 28 is given for London Grand Prix at The Golden Era of Grand Prix Racing site (http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/gp382.htm).

Looks like errors in Parfitts book.In other places in same book it is June 25 & Aug 13.Roll on Sams new book!

RAP · 13 Jan 2005, 10:54 (Ref:1199718)

Correct dates are 25th June 1938 and 13th August 1938.
RAP

Kvadrat · 14 Jan 2005, 02:51 (Ref:1200486)

Does someone have these races' reports and statistics?

ss_collins · 18 Jan 2005, 17:02 (Ref:1203898)

RAP is the man on dates - speaking of which - RAP when I get the proofs through of the chapters would you mind checking the dates for me just to add an extra check!

RAP · 18 Jan 2005, 21:11 (Ref:1204138)

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Originally Posted by Kvadrat

Does someone have these races' reports and statistics?

London GP
1. B Bira ERA 36.00.1"
2. A Dobson ERA
3. A Cuddon-Fletcher MG K3
4. G Abecassis Alta
5. H Stuart Wilton MG K3
6. N Wilson ERA 1100

Crystal Palace Cup
1. G Abecassis Alta 33'15.2"
2. T Rolt ERA
3. J Wakefield ERA
4. A Dobson ERA
5. J H T Smith MG K3
6. A Cuddon-Fletcher MG K3

Sam, happy to check your proofs. Just so others are aware, I am compiling in conjunction with the Formula 1 Register a detailed record of all races at Crystal Palace which will, where possible, contain full results etc and will hopefully see the light of day later this year and complement Sam's book.

Kvadrat · 19 Jan 2005, 01:40 (Ref:1204321)

Thank you!

Is Formula 1 Register Qiuntin Claud's Formula 1 Homepage of GP results & History?

RAP · 19 Jan 2005, 09:31 (Ref:1204519)

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Originally Posted by Kvadrat

Thank you!

Is Formula 1 Register Qiuntin Claud's Formula 1 Homepage of GP results & History?

Formula 1 Register is Paul Sheldon/Duncan Rabagliati who have published the "Record of Grand Prix and Voituerette Racing" series of books, usually known as the "black books" . Also Fact Books on F3, F Junior, Tasman, F5000 and on Goodwood. It seems to me that a very high proportion of the history internet sites basically copy data from these books. They publish as St Leonards Press.

ss_collins · 19 Jan 2005, 09:56 (Ref:1204538)

With the Parfitt book, mine and RAP's project crystal Palace should be one of the best documented circuits going. I should point out that my book is not an alternative to Parfitts, but covers the bits he missed. If you want the full crystal palace story you really should get both... as mine is more concerned with the birth, life, death rebirth, etc.. of the track that has made more comebacks than Nigel Mansell.

There are some great unpublished and never before seen pictures of crystal palaces first three seasons.

The book is due to hit the shelves in March - I think you can pre order on Veloce publishing or amazon - the latter is usually cheaper

RAP · 19 Jan 2005, 10:08 (Ref:1204551)

By the way, Formula 1 Register's web site is
www.formulaoneregister.com
RAP

ss_collins · 9 Jun 2005, 14:15 (Ref:1323959)

The new Crystal Palace book is finally about to hit the shelves.. have a pre prod copy.

Neptune · 10 Jun 2005, 02:30 (Ref:1324477)

Will it be available through Classic Motorbooks in the US? I had to get the Parfit book in the UK.

I have an affection toward the Palace, since I own the last of Keith Halls 3 Lotus Elevens. He did really well there in the earlier two in '56 and '57, but after a great start to the '58 season w/ 4DTN, he crashed, I believe going up ramp bend in practice, May '58, and never raced there again.

I had to make a pilgrimage there in May 1993, a cold and blustery day and had a hard time making out where things had been. I bought the Parfit book a week later, but now I must return to walk the course.

Roger

ss_collins · 19 Jul 2005, 19:27 (Ref:1358796)

Hello all - the book is out! got a good review in classic and sportcar this month, roger - check the new book out to get you mind straight on the venue - it displells a few common held misconceptions - including pictures of racing and motorsport at Crystal Palace when Victoria was queen of england...

TimD · 19 Jul 2005, 20:35 (Ref:1358835)

And if you're allowed a plug, Sam, I'll make a quick mention that your Crystal Palace book is in stock at Collectors Carbooks in Silverstone!

I know - I put half a dozen copies on the shelves only yesterday.

Anuauto · 19 Jul 2005, 20:42 (Ref:1358840)

So when's the book signing at Veloce? Better avoid tomorrow, it's market day.

carrera · 19 Jul 2005, 20:47 (Ref:1358843)

SS. There is also a review of the book in August edition of Classics Monthly along with part one of a feature on Crystal Palace.

Neptune · 20 Jul 2005, 02:26 (Ref:1359002)

SS,

I'll look for the review in Classic & Sportscar and start looking for a US vendor. I've never ordered from Amazon, since I buy all my books through a friendly vendor who gets his stock through Classic Motorbooks.

Rob29 · 20 Jul 2005, 06:42 (Ref:1359051)

Where is the best place to order this from? Im too far from any specialist motorsport boookshop to be worth a special trip.

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