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Old 20 Apr 2009, 12:04 (Ref:2445444)   #1
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Formula 1 2009 Round 4 - Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix

Hi folks, your very own Captain Cupcakix here, welcoming you all to the Bahrain Grand Prix weekend thread!

Yes, Round 3 has only ended but then again, Round 4 has just begun. the Formula 1 circus this week heads to the Sakhir circuit in the Kingdom of Bahrain for the fourth round of this year's series. Red Bull yesterday proved they had what it takes to overhaul BrawnGP in the wet, but how about in the dry? Will Vettel and Webber (or anyone else for that matter) be able to make an impression on the Ross Brawn juggernaut?

The Sakhir circuit is certain to be dry this year (even moving the start 'til late afternoon wouldn't change that in Bahrain!), so everyone will get only their second real chance to see how their cars react over a race distance in the dry. The playing field is very much open, and now it looks like the Brawn cars could have a fight on their hands. Felipe Massa has had a love affair with this track, having won the last two races here. But something tells me, with Ferrari having their worst start in 50,000 years (BBC statistics ), that we may well see a new Bahrain GP winner this weekend. Fernando Alonso has two wins here, in '05 and '06, and Michael Schumacher holds the honour of winning the very first Bahrain GP in 2004.

And, if Ferrari fail to score here, it will be their worst start in Formula 1. EVER. Cue dramatic music.

Will Toyota be able to get their form back? I think so. They were hampered over the weekend by problems and flying Robert Kubicas, but this weekend they should get their groove back, so expect both GlockDog and Trulli to feature prominently. Brawn, as always, will be there, thereabouts or off in the distance, and Red Bull should be there to make up the Top 3. McLaren got a little bit of reward for some hard work by a double-point finish in China, but that was in the wet (where even rain-master Hamilton was unable to keep Kovalainen at bay), and they might lack speed in the dry. It will be very interesting, that's for sure...

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Formula 1 World Drivers Championship Standings
Pos.DriverFlag ConstructorPoints
1.Jenson ButtonBrawn-Mercedes21
2.Rubens BarrichelloBrawn-Mercedes15
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Sebastian VettelRBR-Renault10
4.Timo GlockDogToyota10
5.Mark WebberRBR-Renault
6.Jarno TrulliToyota
7.Nick HeidfeldBMW Sauber4
8.Fernando AlonsoRenault4
9.Heikki KovalainenMcLaren-Mercedes4
10.Lewis HamiltonMcLaren-Mercedes4
11.Nico RosbergWilliams-Toyota
12.Sebastien BuemiSTR-Ferrari3
13.Sebastien BourdaisSTR-Ferrari1


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Formula 1 World Constructors Championship Standings
Pos.ConstructorFlagPoints
1.Brawn-Mercedes36
2.RBR-Renault19.5
3.Toyota18.5
4.McLaren-Mercedes8
5.BMW Sauber4
6.Renault4
7.STR-Ferrari4
8.Williams-Toyota
56,983.Ferrari0

Bahrain International Circuit
LengthDirectionTurnsLaps (Distance)Lap Record (Driver, Year)Circuit Diagram
5.411 km (3.37mi)Clockwise1557 (308.238km)1:30.252 (Michael Schumacher, 2004)

V Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix
Pos.Driver Constructor
Pole PositionRobert Kubica (1:33.096)BMW Sauber
1.Felipe MassaFerrari
2.Kimi R aikko nenFerrari
3.Robert KubicaBMW Sauber
Fastest LapHeikki Kovalainen (1:33.193)McLaren-Mercedes

Previous Winners
YearDriverConstructor
2007Felipe MassaFerrari
2006Fernando AlonsoRenault
2005Fernando AlonsoRenault
2004Michael SchumacherFerrari

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And, very quickly, the TV schedule for Australian viewers:
ChannelDateTimeSession
Sunday, April 262240-0155Race
 2100-2130Pre-Race
  2130-2345Race

Have I overloaded you with information yet? If not, wait until Burnsie arrives and posts all your other vital information! Enjoy!

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Old 20 Apr 2009, 12:05 (Ref:2445446)   #2
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For UK viewers and listeners - or whoever can pick up BBC - here are the scheduled television, interactive and radio times for the race weekend...

BBC Television Schedule

DateTime (GMT)Session/ProgrammeChannel
Saturday 25th April1100 - 1315Qualifying
1900 - 2000Graham Hill: Driven
Sunday 26th April0300 - 0400Graham Hill: Driven (R)
1210 - 1500Race
1900 - 2000Race Highlights
Monday 27th April0115 - 0210Race Highlights (R)


BBC Red Button Schedule

DateTime (GMT)Session/ProgrammeChannel
Friday 24th April0755 - 0935Free Practice 1
1155 - 1335Free Practice 2
Saturday 25th April0855 - 1005Free Practice 3
Sunday 26th April1210 - 1500Race
1500 - 1600Interactive Forum
1500 - Tue 1130Race Highlights (looped)


BBC Radio Schedule

DateTime (GMT)Session/ProgrammeStation
Friday 24th April0755 - 0905Free Practice 1
1155 - 1335Free Practice 2
2130 - 2200Grand Prix Preview
Saturday 25th April0855 - 1005Free Practice 3
1155 - 1305Qualifying
Sunday 26th April1300 - 1430Race
BLUE = Radio 5 Live / GREEN = Radio 5 Live Sports Extra

As far as I can see, there will be no Red Button coverage of Qualifying
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 12:12 (Ref:2445454)   #3
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Timo GlockDOG in the standings. Fantastic! Priceless! That had me laughing out loud
(sorry I missed it in the China build-up)

On a more thread-related note.. Bring on the weekend! Topsy-turvey grids, topsy-turvey race results, 3 great qualifying sessions, 2.5 great races so far this year. Can't remember a better start to a season.
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 13:02 (Ref:2445504)   #4
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I won't be watching the live race (or qualifying either) because I'll be off marshalling this weekend, so hopefully I can avoid hearing the result until the highlights programme!

Here's a link to a lap of Bahrain with Michael Schumacher (2006), just in case anyone needs a reminder of the Sakhir circuit.
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 14:09 (Ref:2445549)   #5
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I lived and worked in Bahrain for quite a few years altogether...great place, nice people. Made me feel right at home.
So the GP is always a must for me. Lots of happy memories AND Formula 1.

Dry race, temp in the 30's I would imagine. If windy/breezy, drifting sand may be a problem.

This IS an exciting season.
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Old 20 Apr 2009, 14:18 (Ref:2445553)   #6
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Brawn'll be looking forward to this one. Gonna be nice and dry again! Hope it's better then some of the previous Bahrain GPs.
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Good job people!

I predict a snoozefest. Bahrain isn't exactly the greatest circuit and the chances of rain is zilch. (watch it pour down now)
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Be good to have a dry race though, calm everything down! I'm betting on a Brawn vs Toyota duel, with Vettel getting cheekily involved also!
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I predict a snoozefest. Bahrain isn't exactly the greatest circuit and the chances of rain is zilch. (watch it pour down now)
Ditto that. A track must be bad when I can't remember any of the races that I've seen from there.
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Ditto that. A track must be bad when I can't remember any of the races that I've seen from there.
Thanks for explaining something which was puzzling me, couldn't understand why I can't bring a single corner or incident from Bahrain to mind but I guess you have put your finger on the reason.
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The only things I recall from Bahrain are little scraps. Ralf Schumacher comedy in 2004, Rosbergs run in 2006, Button pulling some nice moves on the slightly hobbled JPM in the same year, Hamilton backing the car around there on his way to outperforming Alonso for the first time in 2007, his horror show in 2008.

Other than that, dullness all round. But let's see what the new regs do in a dry race, impressions from Melbourne were favourable.
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I think that Bahrain will be the acid test of the OWG's reg changes.
The first three races have all been good, so if the changes make for a good race at Sakhir I guess we can say they've succeeded.
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It should be noted that two of the races have been wet and thus the fun can't really be attributed to the tech regs. Wet races are always good!

But I am optimistic. Although you can't judge it on Bahrain, as I can't think of many good races there in any series.
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Well, maybe.

Bahrain has overtaking. Usually more than most. The whole tight-hairpin --->straight--->tight-hairpin set-up.

If we see loads of overtaking, then perhaps an answer. If there is a reasonable number of moves, then not so much.
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I guess you're right Dutton. Maybe Hungary would be the true test, but that's a long time to wait.
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This circuit should provide us with a truer test of individual car performance.Hopefully it will stay dry and be free of safety cars.

Bahrain International Circuit weather forecast.

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Don't forget that Ferrari, Toyota and BMW Sauber did their winter testing in Bahrain... I wonder how much of an advantage (if any) this will give them in their preparations for the weekend.
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Am I right in thinking Bahrain has quite high tyre wear? Or is this something I've dreamt up? If so, do we know what tyre compounds are being taken? Well, I guess I want to know the latter regardless of wear rates.

I'm assuming any teams with a functioning KERS, which they trust enough to race, will definitely use it? It would surely be rather useful on the hairpin-straight-hairpin stuff...
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I'm assuming any teams with a functioning KERS, which they trust enough to race, will definitely use it?
Ferrari are aiming to have KERS back on both cars this weekend, but I couldn't see Kubica giving the system another try.
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Well, I guess I want to know the latter regardless of wear rates.
Supersofts and Mediums again for Bahrain.Softs and Hards for Barcelona.
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Well, maybe.

Bahrain has overtaking. Usually more than most. The whole tight-hairpin --->straight--->tight-hairpin set-up.

If we see loads of overtaking, then perhaps an answer. If there is a reasonable number of moves, then not so much.
I don't think that Bahrain will have too much overtaking, and I don't think it will mean the OWG has failed if it doesnt. The problem with Bahrain isn't the track layout... it's the huge amount of sand/dust on the track as soon as you move of the ideal line.
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I'm guessing the low grip nature of the Bahrain track wont be helping Ferrari then.
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The super soft tyre should present more of a challenge in terms of durability than the medium, however the data from the pre-season tests show that this tyre can be managed well on this track if the correct set-up is found. There is a lot of heavy braking here, and if a car has less than ideal traction, additional unwanted heat can be created and this will make matters more difficult for competitors.
Sounds like we might see a tyre situation similar to Melbourne, with the super softs only being useful for a very short period of time.
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