QMN driving standards

[Al Weyman]

No.because people in front would brake test you.

[Alan Cherry]

Put another two on the back then. seriously no contact then !

[midgetman]

Just this is happening in karting - we are getting new front fairings which will detach if contact is made. Results in a pit stop for repairs.

The brake test worry is doing the rounds of the karting forums too.

[Paul D]

Not sure this is workable really. Seems like a reasonable idea until you think it through a bit more: what about the guy who has an incident all on his own, let's say a bit of brake fade, for example, puts him off the track and into the tyres - not so hard as to do major damage to the car, but enough to break that circuit his ignition feed must pass through on the front bumper? Or what about the innocent brush with another vehicle that's no fault of the driver? Say, avoiding a spinner in front of you, but you tap him with your front corner as he spins out. Not enough damage to prevent you continuing, perhaps, but your day would be ruined with this system installed.

Both of the above scenarios have happened to me in the past, and I continued on - I'd have been mightily p*ssed off had I been prevented from going any further due to the 'anti - anti-social driving system'!

[historic racer]

This matter is really in the hands of the organising club, where the entry's are on the decline they will not upset any competitor or turn away any entry. Clubs that keep a firm grip on driving standards ( CSCC for example ) see full grids while those that dont see dwindling one's. As someone started this with QMN/Tin Tops , this weekends entry is well down on what it was about 50% reduction, time will tell, if left some series will go to the wall.

[greenamex2]

Originally Posted by Alan Cherry

Any thoughts on the following idea that may help - is it too simplistic, or might it work ? Cost in materials £5-£10 per car.
1/Build into next years regs requirement to have 3 fuse holders on front of car - One in centre (bumper height) and one on each corner,
2/ Glass fuses in each holder.
3/ Ignition circuit to be routed via all 3 fuses in series.
4/ Any method to bipass this would mean disqualification from the series for the whole season.
5/ Drive into anyone and your race is over - end of

Any views on this welcomed
p.s. May work well in the BTCC - how many cars would finish though?


Alan

Could end up with a circuit littered with stranded cars which would be dangerous.

You could do something similar with a reduced rev limit though.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by historic racer

This matter is really in the hands of the organising club, where the entry's are on the decline they will not upset any competitor or turn away any entry. Clubs that keep a firm grip on driving standards ( CSCC for example ) see full grids while those that dont see dwindling one's. As someone started this with QMN/Tin Tops , this weekends entry is well down on what it was about 50% reduction, time will tell, if left some series will go to the wall.

I suspect the entries are down as it's Snetterton, and many of us don't travel that far lol

[Al Weyman]

Blimey that's a long way from Essex NOT!

[historic racer]

Originally Posted by Dom

I suspect the entries are down as it's Snetterton, and many of us don't travel that far lol

Essex to snetterton , well you could always make a holiday of it , especially as it takes two days travelling each way.

[Tim Falce]

They had 23 starters for qualifying which isn't too bad and I see Rod Birley came last which should satisfy Sue for a change.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Blimey that's a long way from Essex NOT!

I'm sure some of the drivers think they need a passport to get out of Kent

[historic racer]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

They had 23 starters for qualifying which isn't too bad and I see Rod Birley came last which should satisfy Sue for a change.

19 starters for each race which both turned out to be quite boring, Birley's Escort went out with engine failure in qualy, borrowed some old clio for first race only, finished 15th.

[Al Weyman]

I must admit at Snetterton cars can get very strung out, I actually prefer the 200 layout over the 300 myself. You still get the same amount of racing just more laps in your allotted time.

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by historic racer

19 starters for each race which both turned out to be quite boring, Birley's Escort went out with engine failure in qualy, borrowed some old clio for first race only, finished 15th.

I've not seen many QMN or DMN races that weren't boring, usual format is, Birley ****es off and leaves everything behind, everything behind is strung out and unless you are at Lydden or possibly Brands there will be large gaps.

[historic racer]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

I've not seen many QMN or DMN races that weren't boring, usual format is, Birley ****es off and leaves everything behind, everything behind is strung out and unless you are at Lydden or possibly Brands there will be large gaps.

Totally agree. Birley by way off his influential position on the organising clubs committee has banned 6 cylinder turbo's thereby eliminating the Skylines which were the only one's that could beat him and make a race of it.

[andy robinson]

Originally Posted by historic racer

Totally agree. Birley by way off his influential position on the organising clubs committee has banned 6 cylinder turbo's thereby eliminating the Skylines which were the only one's that could beat him and make a race of it.

and by really uping the weight limits of anything with a massive engine which was pointed out to me about 3 yrs ago, not that I was looking at joining in

[Bob Gray]

What have the last few comments got to do about driving standards
This thread is heading in the direction of the previous DMN/QMN threads.

[Al Weyman]

Originally Posted by Bob Gray

What have the last few comments got to do about driving standards
This thread is heading in the direction of the previous DMN/QMN threads.

Like

[Al Weyman]

Anyhow they have also gelded the Skylines in CTCRC Classic Thunder as well so this series is not unique in that respect. They can now only race in 2WD.

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by Bob Gray

What have the last few comments got to do about driving standards
This thread is heading in the direction of the previous DMN/QMN threads.

Yup, keep this to driving standards and not racing politics as we all know where the latter will end.

[historic racer]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

Yup, keep this to driving standards and not racing politics as we all know where the latter will end.

NOPE have to disagree, when a series brings itself into disrepute the drivers involved lose respect for that series and dont have the same care for its reputation , hence the standards of driving suffer, which brings us neatly back to the original posting.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by historic racer

NOPE have to disagree, when a series brings itself into disrepute the drivers involved lose respect for that series and dont have the same care for its reputation , hence the standards of driving suffer, which brings us neatly back to the original posting.

I have to disagree with that, its not a lack of care for a series reputation but simply a lack of care for other peoples cars in the first place. What we need is a foolproof way of shunning poor drivers..

[Copperbottom]

Originally Posted by historic racer

NOPE have to disagree, when a series brings itself into disrepute the drivers involved lose respect for that series and dont have the same care for its reputation , hence the standards of driving suffer, which brings us neatly back to the original posting.

Tosh!

[Al Weyman]

Just a thought, maybe if everyone carried incar camera equipment driving standards could be more closely monitored and viewed if there is a dispute.

[historic racer]

Originally Posted by Copperbottom

Tosh!

Thats a constructive contribution !
What I am trying to point out is that when you lose the comarade spirit you lose the care , you are not for instance going to run into the person that you have been sitting next to having breakfast, are you.