Is JW beatable this year?

billy bigtime · 19 Apr 2009, 07:47 (Ref:2444380)

Of course he is but based on form it will be very hard. I think my old mate Skaifey said Jamie has won 17 races out of the last 20, I don't think even Brocky managed that. Did u see the way he gapped the field after the last pace car? He wasn't even trying. Love to see JW and MA fighting it out in the same team

Razor · 19 Apr 2009, 08:03 (Ref:2444400)

For some reason, I can hear parity bells starting to ring.

peckstar · 19 Apr 2009, 08:07 (Ref:2444408)

with two of the top 3 being holden drivers and 5 of the top 8 also being holden, i would suggest that the fords are struggling.

If it wasnt for one driver, Jamie, the fords would be in all sorts

all do you mean penalise the driver

TSR · 19 Apr 2009, 09:19 (Ref:2444452)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

with two of the top 3 being holden drivers and 5 of the top 8 also being holden, i would suggest that the fords are struggling.

If it wasnt for one driver, Jamie, the fords would be in all sorts

all do you mean penalise the driver

What race did u watch, FORD 1,2,3.

Holden will be crying by the end of Winton.

peckstar · 19 Apr 2009, 09:29 (Ref:2444465)

sorry, i meant in the championship

rustyinsthoz · 19 Apr 2009, 09:54 (Ref:2444498)

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Originally Posted by Razor

For some reason, I can hear parity bells starting to ring.

The parity adjustment moves ever closer.

Pro Racer · 19 Apr 2009, 09:54 (Ref:2444499)

Holden (with arguablly the exception of GRM who are doing a bloody good job on an average budget) need to lift.

rocks harder · 19 Apr 2009, 10:11 (Ref:2444526)

yes he can be beaten someone just needs to take him out first corner

seriously though hrt messed qualifying up in race two but they are probably the team most likely to take it to whincup and 888 consistently remember it is only round 2. will davison is in a pretty handy position considering he has had only a few drives in a hrt car.

peckstar · 19 Apr 2009, 10:20 (Ref:2444533)

Will needs to learn to qualify a bit better
4 races now he has started outside the top ten, but has finsihed well up in all of them

bluesport · 19 Apr 2009, 11:11 (Ref:2444570)

What if Jamie did go through the whole season undefeated......that would make him the greatest of them all......and that would be heresy!

peckstar · 19 Apr 2009, 11:19 (Ref:2444581)

already has more bathurst wins and more championships at the same age as Brock.

STEALTHY · 19 Apr 2009, 11:29 (Ref:2444596)

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Originally Posted by billy bigtime

Of course he is but based on form it will be very hard. I think my old mate Skaifey said Jamie has won 17 races out of the last 20, I don't think even Brocky managed that. Did u see the way he gapped the field after the last pace car? He wasn't even trying. Love to see JW and MA fighting it out in the same team

The difference is, JW doesn't whinge on the radio saying 'tell him to move, we have a championship to win', and especially not when its for position.....ROFL

6.213km · 19 Apr 2009, 11:30 (Ref:2444597)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

already has more bathurst wins and more championships at the same age as Brock.

So does Marcos Ambrose, Rick Kelly, Todd Kelly, Heck, anyone that won their first Bathurst (or championship) before the age of 27 has more Bathurst wins then Peter Brock did at that age... and as for championships he didnt win one until after his first bathurst.

Comparing different eras just doesnt work.

I must say though, that Jamie's performances have been exceptionally good. Sure he has a fabulous car, the best in the field - but he's braining his team mate. Maybe Lowndes is the next Skaife.

Lets just remember the last man to win Bathurst in a holden is now in the commentary box... could it be the last man to win Bathurst in a Ford will end up there in the not too distant future??

bluesport · 19 Apr 2009, 19:43 (Ref:2444928)

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Originally Posted by 6.213km

I must say though, that Jamie's performances have been exceptionally good. Sure he has a fabulous car, the best in the field - but he's braining his team mate. Maybe Lowndes is the next Skaife.

Lets just remember the last man to win Bathurst in a holden is now in the commentary box... could it be the last man to win Bathurst in a Ford will end up there in the not too distant future??

Lowndes is still more recognisable and is still sought after for commercial reasons......he's doing TV commercials with his wife ATM......too early for the commentary box IMO.

mmciau · 19 Apr 2009, 20:13 (Ref:2444947)

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Originally Posted by rocks harder

yes he can be beaten someone just needs to take him out first corner

seriously though hrt messed qualifying up in race two but they are probably the team most likely to take it to whincup and 888 consistently remember it is only round 2. will davison is in a pretty handy position considering he has had only a few drives in a hrt car.

The no1 car is perfectly chassis tuned and the driver is in 'sync' with it.

The HRT cars are 'twitchy and nervous' and are not in the same league.

JW can 'gap' anyone he wants to at 0.5 second a lap in race trim, he builds a minimum of a 2 second margin and then drives at 95%. he did it ion adelaide and he did it in NZ

All the others ahve to overdrive' to try and stay with the No 1 package

Mike

**GTRMagic** · 19 Apr 2009, 22:51 (Ref:2445034)

If you believe the hype Here Mr Whincup has offers for Le Mans, and from 2 other main game V8Supercar teams for 2010 and beyond.

Who would have the $$ to fund him?? FPR, HRT??

mayhem · 19 Apr 2009, 23:05 (Ref:2445046)

Or is his manager fishing for a longer. larger contract extension....timing is everything.

**GTRMagic** · 20 Apr 2009, 00:17 (Ref:2445074)

With the BTCC losing its last manufacturer (coincidentally also 888-run), the WTCC oversubscribed with drivers if not cars, and Le Mans contenders blowing in and out of the sport depending on marketing priorities not sporting ones...

.. you wouldnt want to play your "other options" hand too strongly I wouldnt think

deeks6 · 20 Apr 2009, 01:06 (Ref:2445087)

Methinks he has a "little" leverage at the moment, however GTR ...

**GTRMagic** · 20 Apr 2009, 01:55 (Ref:2445113)

Perhaps, but who can afford a $1m salary in this current climate?

deeks6 · 20 Apr 2009, 01:58 (Ref:2445114)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Perhaps, but who can afford a $1m salary in this current climate?

whoever is paying Craig Lowndes salary, I'd guess for starters...

**GTRMagic** · 20 Apr 2009, 02:04 (Ref:2445116)

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Originally Posted by deeks6

whoever is paying Craig Lowndes salary, I'd guess for starters...

When the Ford love stops at the end of the year... can 888 really afford to pay 2x $1m salaries out of its own sponsorship budget for its pilots??

Axeman444 · 20 Apr 2009, 02:14 (Ref:2445118)

i wonder if Garry and whoever was in control at Tasman at the time are now rueing their decisions...??

Micklegend · 20 Apr 2009, 02:14 (Ref:2445119)

if it helps keep them at the front then yes the probably can.

deeks6 · 20 Apr 2009, 02:15 (Ref:2445120)

The short answer is obviously no - but lets say Whincup wins the title again (looking likely), 888 win Bathurst again (who would bet against it?) and Lowndes car stops stopping and he hauls his way back up the top 3 in the title ... lots of bragging rights. Ford and Vodaphone would be doing quite nicely out of this pairing methinks - but perhaps the current salaries might be reversed shall we say?

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