[WEC] Porsche Prototype Discussion

[Akrapovic]

"In the 17 on the other hand, they are paying attention"

Bit of a harsh comment against the #19 there. It wasn't like they weren't paying attention - they were just driving faster. That's what it takes to win this race now days.

[Bell_End]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

"In the 17 on the other hand, they are paying attention"

Bit of a harsh comment against the #19 there. It wasn't like they weren't paying attention - they were just driving faster. That's what it takes to win this race now days.

Or they have a car that has broken at the previous short races and weren't going to just run the team cars at the limit while in a strong position. Don't think it was meant as a dig at the #18 drivers (probably doing what they were told, run a cracking pace and break the Audis chasing which they did) but he is someone who is very close to the team and may know what they were playing at. Le Mans has always been about team games.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

"In the 17 on the other hand, they are paying attention"

Bit of a harsh comment against the #19 there. It wasn't like they weren't paying attention - they were just driving faster. That's what it takes to win this race now days.

Not sure its being harsh. If you bang a car over the kerbs for 24 hours, its a reasonable assumption that you may have damage to it...

Its supposed to be WEC not WRC after all...

The #19 played hare big time.. and it worked. Job done!

[Stefvh]

It was not that clear on the first stints, when the #19 was sixth until Duval made contact with the barrier.

[Bell_End]

Originally Posted by Stefvh

It was not that clear on the first stints, when the #19 was sixth until Duval made contact with the barrier.

More than one race plan?? that is crazy talk


When they got bunched up with that S/C the #18 found another gear over the rest of the field

[Spyderman]

What's next? http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/p...017-lmp1-cars/

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

What's next? http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/p...017-lmp1-cars/

That sounds like real commitment to me!

Richard

[hcl123]

Originally Posted by ederss7

They took a lot of risks then. They pushed so hard through the whole race, only in the last lap they slowed down. I thought they were pretty confident about their reliability due to the insane pace they had. There were no need to push like that.

Audi pushed harder... Porsche played very good strategy with good choices to make tires last during the night with 4 stints, played well and Audi played worst since they lost time during the night ( didn't see if they had 5 stints with Lotterer or not)... last i saw of night #19 and #7 and #9 were inside 1:30s or so, in middle of night, hardly a difference for not pushing... but then the LM ghost this time caught Audi, but even then Audi didn't stop pushing (happy hour time when Lotterer pulverized again (1th was #9 Albuquerque beginning of night) the race lap record)...

So if all stayed out of trouble, all bets would be off, that 's exactly the situation where you have to push.... specially when you know the best characteristic of your opponent is reliability(diesel engine helps a lot).

[hcl123]

Originally Posted by Bell_End

I reckon they sent the #19 out to go flat out and push the Audis while keeping the official cars running to a pace, as mentioned above they didn't know they would have a trouble free 24hrs.

A quote from Webbers old man on the sunday morning kinda supports that

http://www.24h-lemans.com/en/news/al...746_21095.html

They all went flat out since the beginning, even Toyota... the differences in stints are mostly due to tires, and sometimes fuel strategies (different engine mapping for 1 more lap or less time in pits)... but under the possibilities of the car is flat out all the time, specially at front of the race... even if you are most delayed is flat out,,, in Spa was the same (#17 never quitted).

This is new fashion endurance racing, machines have to last flatting out (is all computer managed this days, engine and hybrid, so all the driver has to do is pedal to the metal without being crazy on unnecessary risks) ... or else ! lol

[hcl123]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

What's next? http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/p...017-lmp1-cars/

Premature... it says is improving what they got... which they do all the time... without knowing what will be fuel allocations and minimal weights for 2016, its very hard to develop something new, hard to develop what you don't know you have to meet.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by hcl123

Premature... it says is improving what they got... which they do all the time... without knowing what will be fuel allocations and minimal weights for 2016, its very hard to develop something new, hard to develop what you don't know you have to meet.

Premature? Absolutely not! You can't wait until all of the details are ironed out before you start work. And starting now isn't the same as setting design decisions in stone now. Same goes for 2017.

Richard

[yamato]

I wonder if we will get an after-the-fact release from Porsche about winning technologies like Audi has been fond of in the past????

They have been very quiet about their engine. I have to wonder what changes hide "under the hood" they clearly made a change to two exhausts. But why? Did their MGU-H change from last years. how much more efficient is this thing over last years? I have to wonder how much that other hybrid system has to do with h their ability to get to 8MG?

[BTCC 318d]

Originally Posted by yamato

I wonder if we will get an after-the-fact release from Porsche about winning technologies like Audi has been fond of in the past????

They have been very quiet about their engine. I have to wonder what changes hide "under the hood" they clearly made a change to two exhausts. But why? Did their MGU-H change from last years. how much more efficient is this thing over last years? I have to wonder how much that other hybrid system has to do with h their ability to get to 8MG?

I read somewhere that the change to 2 exhausts was that it was better for aero.

[cokata]

Originally Posted by BTCC 318d

I read somewhere that the change to 2 exhausts was that it was better for aero.

And reduction of exhaust backpressure. The car was overweight last year and that's why they probably went with a single exhaust as it saves a bit of weight.

[Simmi]

Le Mans wrap-up video from Porsche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTn-...ature=youtu.be

Utterly ruined by the bizarre choice of voiceover if you ask me.

[manthey]

How many engineers works in the Porsche aero-department ?

Because Bonanomi said to an italian newspaper before the race that Audi had more than doubled (10) the 3-4 aero-specialists that worked 2 years ago
http://www.gazzetta.it/Auto/12-06-20...40911368.shtml

[Salamus]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Utterly ruined by the bizarre choice of voiceover if you ask me.

I thought the exact same thing. It sounds like a German man with a French accent that grew up in the south of the US trying to speak English. Bizarre. Which is weird because I'm pretty sure it's the same guy that does all their promotional videos.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Salamus

I thought the exact same thing. It sounds like a German man with a French accent that grew up in the south of the US trying to speak English. Bizarre. Which is weird because I'm pretty sure it's the same guy that does all their promotional videos.

[porman]

Almost laughable. Germanic humor? The video was good, albeit hard to focus on the visual side with the twilight zone narration.

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by manthey

How many engineers works in the Porsche aero-department ?

Because Bonanomi said to an italian newspaper before the race that Audi had more than doubled (10) the 3-4 aero-specialists that worked 2 years ago
http://www.gazzetta.it/Auto/12-06-20...40911368.shtml

I don't know, but I can tell you that Porsche are still trying to recruit a Senior Aero Performance Engineer and a Head of Aero and Thermodynamics.

[porsche91722]

Originally Posted by Salamus

I thought the exact same thing. It sounds like a German man with a French accent that grew up in the south of the US trying to speak English. Bizarre. Which is weird because I'm pretty sure it's the same guy that does all their promotional videos.

That is very funny and so true .
Us Aussies cop a lot of ribbing over our accents , but that blokes voice/accent is very, very strange. They are trying to be serious about their great victory, but have only succeeded in that video sounding utterly ridiculous. I think there will be another re-done version surfacing in the not too distant future.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Le Mans wrap-up video from Porsche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTn-...ature=youtu.be

Utterly ruined by the bizarre choice of voiceover if you ask me.

KFC/Kentucky Fried Chicken recently brought Col. Sanders back from the dead to be their new (and creepy) spokesperson for some new commercials. Apparently he also moonlights for Porsche doing voiceover work!

Richard

[templer]

Originally Posted by manthey

How many engineers works in the Porsche aero-department ?

Because Bonanomi said to an italian newspaper before the race that Audi had more than doubled (10) the 3-4 aero-specialists that worked 2 years ago
http://www.gazzetta.it/Auto/12-06-20...40911368.shtml

German Pitwalk magazine claims 15 and 45 for the hybrid system development, in total 145 engineers working on the 919 Hybrid.

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Richard Casto

KFC/Kentucky Fried Chicken recently brought Col. Sanders back from the dead to be their new (and creepy) spokesperson for some new commercials. Apparently he also moonlights for Porsche doing voiceover work!

Richard

I am sorry, I can't help myself...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh2rHsxYh6U

Richard

[skeeskirrt]

http://turbo.honeywell.com/whats-new...rs-of-le-mans/

Press Release from Honeywell Turbos. 16 consecutive LM24 winners with Honeywell Turbo technology!

"Gasoline DualBoost technology provides 20 to 30 percent better response for improved acceleration out of corners and more steady state engine power from higher turbo efficiency. This is achieved in an overall lighter weight package that is 10 to 20 percent smaller than an equivalent standard gasoline turbo."