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9 Dec 2013, 17:20 (Ref:3342018)
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Future Rule Changes
http://www.fia.com/formula-one-regulation-changes
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Cost cap for 2015
Tyre test
Permanent driver numbers
...oh, double points for final race of the season.
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9 Dec 2013, 17:37 (Ref:3342023)
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A working group will be established to finalise the regulations governing the cost-cap regulations.This group, which will include representatives of the FIA and of the commercial rights holder, as well as F1 team members, will be tasked to finalise these regulations by the end of June 2014.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111798
I would love to be a fly on the wall at these meetings and going on past form I expect this will run and run.........
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9 Dec 2013, 17:44 (Ref:3342027)
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May be nostalgia but I'm really hoping we see the Ferrari teams take #27 and #28.
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9 Dec 2013, 17:48 (Ref:3342028)
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Totally artificial.
You forgot the potential mandatory 2-stops for next season.
Add that to DRS and what do you have? A series where what isn't the best car being piloted by what isn't the best driver get an ever-increasing chance to take the title.
F1 is attempting to recapture casual sports fans, but is doing so at the expense of hardcore fans. I was a casual F1 fan until 2010, when I suddenly became hooked on motorsports, but I think the whole artificial nature of the sport now would've made it look like a joke to me in 2006.
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9 Dec 2013, 18:02 (Ref:3342030)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greem
Headlines:
Cost cap for 2015
Tyre test
Permanent driver numbers
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Originally Posted by Greem
...oh, double points for final race of the season.
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9 Dec 2013, 18:13 (Ref:3342034)
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Surely
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Originally Posted by Greem
double points for final race of the season.
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9 Dec 2013, 18:33 (Ref:3342039)
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double points for the finale is an odd rule change and im not sure where it came from or if there is a sporting logic behind it. great for the promoter of the race who gets to host the 'super point' event though.
will wait and see what amount they settle on for a cost cap and see what mechanism they will create to enforce it.
i like the idea of driver numbers over the car number as i have always liked the more recent trend of referring to the chassis by year and/or model number.
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Shall we buy a new guitar? Shall we drive a more powerful car?
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9 Dec 2013, 18:46 (Ref:3342047)
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Lets hope they come up with a senceable budget cap. They probably need to set it high to start with and bring down to about £ 60-80million. They should have a seperate cap for engine manufacture with an engine cost included in a team budget.
The interesting bit is how the big teams will take their budgets down.
A proper budget cap will get rid of the need for testing restrictions and a host of other cost restriction stuff. If we have more than 1 tyre supplier then they should also have budget restriction.
I Hope the FIA have said if the teams cannot agree they will impose a budget cap.
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9 Dec 2013, 19:05 (Ref:3342054)
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this is the moment they're going to talk about as the moment that f1 jumped the shark, isn't it?
the budget cap is too late, i believe.
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9 Dec 2013, 19:05 (Ref:3342055)
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Cost cap for 2015
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Tyre test
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Permanent driver numbers
...oh, double points for final race of the season.
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Permanent numbers is Ace.
Double points for season finale will at least ensure that more drivers would be in with a chance of winning WDC. Give it a go.
Budget cap!
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9 Dec 2013, 19:15 (Ref:3342058)
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Some good changes, spoiled entirely by one solitary idea.
KILL ME NOW.
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Top Formula 1 analyst Knowlesy previews the 2014 season.
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9 Dec 2013, 19:16 (Ref:3342059)
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Budget cap: a stable door moment if ever there was one.
I predict that at least two, possibly three and an outside chance of four current teams have serious financial trouble before 2015. I don't want them to but we're already looking at Marussia, Sauber & Lotus really having to stretch to make ends meet.
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9 Dec 2013, 19:33 (Ref:3342071)
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I really really really hate this double points at the finale decision. It's just arrived out of nowhere, I don't recall anyone ever mentioning it before. Yes there were some unfunny jokes by people who don't understand sport or arithmetic when Hamilton won his title by finishing 5th, beating Massa, who won. But anyone who thinks that the championship should just go to the winner of the last race is insane. Ok, this suggestion isn't quite as bad, but it's a move in that direction.
All for the budget cap though. It should have been made some time ago. Actually, it was made some time ago, everyone just ignored it! Although that had a load of caveats, like prize money didn't count (Ferrari get the most wherever they finish don't they?) and drivers' pay and marketing didn't count.
I don't think that the mandatory pit stops are necessarily a bad idea, so long as the sport is flexible enough to drop them again if they don't work.
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9 Dec 2013, 19:36 (Ref:3342072)
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The double points is heading towards a Chase sort of system, and that's awful. It's a pathetic idea and ruins the entire rule changes.
I was excited about 2014, as some of the smaller teams may get a chance to beat the big boys for a little while, but if the best car/driver(/engine) combo doesn't win, what is the point?
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9 Dec 2013, 19:37 (Ref:3342073)
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Imagine if you lead all season, then your engine blows in Abu Dhabi and someone sails past you in the standings because of the double points.
Sport at its finest.
Such a shame, because I am in love with the permanent numbers.
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