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14 Dec 2017, 16:18 (Ref:3787066)
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Latest figures show that TV viewers in Europe for F1 have decreased by about 50% in the last 5 years or so, driven by, so it's believed, pay to view whilst at the same time advertising revenue generated in Europe - F1s main TV base - is also declining.
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15 Dec 2017, 13:29 (Ref:3787256)
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Fox Sports + ESPN: worldwide monopoly
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15 Dec 2017, 17:54 (Ref:3787302)
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Fox Sports + ESPN: worldwide monopoly
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Fox Sports, Fox News and Fox Business are not part of the deal.
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Fox is creating a smaller firm focused on news and major live sports events in the US.
It will hold onto its flagship Fox News Channel, Fox Business Network, Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox Sports, Fox Television Stations Group, and sports cable networks FS1, FS2, Fox Deportes and Big Ten Network.
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This is taken from BBC News
Link may be Geolocked - sorry if it is.
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15 Dec 2017, 22:34 (Ref:3787347)
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Getting off topic
The interesting point is that Rupert is selling the entertainment business for a motza to supposedly concentrate on his "core values" News and Sport.
I've always assumed that his core value was how to gain control of the political system in whichever country he was operating.
That aside he has retained a significant stake in Disney, a market situation from which he has been known to engineer a reverse takeover.
The other point is that the retained part of the business should now be concentrated in Newscorp. and thus under tighter family control. Gets rid of those pesky shareholders wanting voting rights!
The whole question is whether this move is seen my him as a step in search of further political power or a admission that he is getting on a bit and should limit his sphere of activity.
Don't think either he, or Lachlan or James have ever displayed any interest in F1 as either a sport or a mass audience platform. Dunno about Jerry Hall!
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15 Dec 2017, 23:04 (Ref:3787353)
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Disney is buying all Fox international channels, which include Fox Sports.
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15 Dec 2017, 23:37 (Ref:3787356)
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Disney is buying all Fox international channels, which include Fox Sports.
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Perhaps the international sports channels such as Sky's Sports channels and also Star sports across Asia but not Fox sports in the US.
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Disney would not purchase all of Fox, according to people with knowledge of the talks.
The company could not own two broadcast networks and would therefore not buy the Fox broadcast network. It would not buy Fox's sports programming assets in the belief that combining them with ESPN could be seen as anti-competitive from an antitrust standpoint and it would not buy the Fox News or Business channel. Disney would also not purchase Fox's local broadcasting affiliates, according to people familiar with the negotiations.
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17 Dec 2017, 20:55 (Ref:3787771)
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Disney is buying all Fox international channels, which include Fox Sports.
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I doubt if anyone outside of the deal ( and maybe even Disney ) can explain in detail what the international intricacies of the Fox Broadcasting, News Ltd. Newscorp, Sky, Star sport etc. and other news and sport entities will sell or retain under this deal.
While 21st Century Fox, as an owner and producer of media content in the US, is being sold the control of Newscorp operations in China Hong Kong, the UK, Europe and home base in Australia are outside the control (thank heavens) of US legislators.
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13 Feb 2018, 17:20 (Ref:3801054)
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ABC/ESPN to use SKY's F1 brodcast in the US.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...c-sky-1004720/
was hoping they would provide their own coverage and commentary team as i already receive SKY's feed via my local Canadian broadcaster and it would have been nice to have another option as i did last year with NBC.
no doubt many (even myself to an extent) will worry about SKY's greater control over the English language broadcasts but it may yeild some positive results.
as SKY can better monetize their broadcast (selling to more markets) perhaps we will all see an across the board reduction in subscription costs (long shot i know  ) and/or with greater control and the same broadcaster there may be a clearer path to providing an OTT offering to the N.American market.
time will tell.
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13 Feb 2018, 17:39 (Ref:3801059)
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As an American, I am extremely happy that this has happened. Needless to say, I will miss Hobbs and Matchett dearly, but sure as hell won't miss NBC, bloody commercial breaks every 6-7 minutes.
Although it is no secret that Croft often draws the ire of the British viewer, but things like that I personally don't have an issue with. Despite all that, I can't wait for an all British commentary team to take over, thank god.
With the new Sky/ESPN announcement and all the goodies and coverage that will come with, I think it is safe to say that North Americans will have the best spread of Formula 1 coverage since ABC first broadcast the motorsport in 1962...in other words, ever!
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13 Feb 2018, 17:49 (Ref:3801064)
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I've never found Croft that bad. Especially after James Allen who was absolutely horrendous.
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13 Feb 2018, 18:20 (Ref:3801079)
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One thing that must be borne in mind is that, subject to competition law, etc. considerations by the British government, that SKY is to become part of the Disney Corporation. That may well have a bearing on future output.
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13 Feb 2018, 22:16 (Ref:3801144)
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I've never found Croft that bad. Especially after James Allen who was absolutely horrendous.
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I also like Croft. Yes James Allen was horrendous, but his BBC replacement, Jonathan Legard took it to new levels of dreadfulness. 
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14 Feb 2018, 01:43 (Ref:3801161)
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I also like Croft. Yes James Allen was horrendous, but his BBC replacement, Jonathan Legard took it to new levels of dreadfulness. |
I've tried to delete him from memory but cannot seem to erase the way he would always yell "Abbadabbi" when pronouncing Abu Dhabi. Croft is definitely best of the three. Allen much better suited to his excellent analysis than commentary.
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14 Feb 2018, 02:21 (Ref:3801165)
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I've never found Croft that bad. Especially after James Allen who was absolutely horrendous.
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agree. crofty was brilliant on radio 5 before sky. used to prefer to listen to races than watch them - and it’s still no hardship with the current 5 live team. crofty is still pretty good. james allen was like giving the daily mail the microphone...
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15 Feb 2018, 21:15 (Ref:3801695)
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As an American, I am extremely happy that this has happened. Needless to say, I will miss Hobbs and Matchett dearly, but sure as hell won't miss NBC, bloody commercial breaks every 6-7 minutes.
Although it is no secret that Croft often draws the ire of the British viewer, but things like that I personally don't have an issue with. Despite all that, I can't wait for an all British commentary team to take over, thank god.
With the new Sky/ESPN announcement and all the goodies and coverage that will come with, I think it is safe to say that North Americans will have the best spread of Formula 1 coverage since ABC first broadcast the motorsport in 1962...in other words, ever!
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I couldn't disagree more. NBC provided the best coverage of Formula 1 we've had in my lifetime - it's not even close, really. What makes you think there will be less commercials?
Goodies and coverage? We don't know if we will even get to see qualifying, much less practice! Sounds like they are working on a paywall service as well. Where is the good news?
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