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Old 5 Apr 2018, 22:36 (Ref:3813100)   #1
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Holden Gives Up (For Now) On The V6Fix!!!

Holden suspends V6 turbo development

Not surprised,

Not helped by the latest Sales figures either i guess
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Old 6 Apr 2018, 00:07 (Ref:3813107)   #2
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Well that's a big call to make isn't it?

Seems to me that it may well point to the direction the future tech regs are taking. If the category is considering sticking with V8 engines only, or has made that decision already, it would make no sense to spend another minute or dollar on V6TT development. The Holden announcement may well have been triggered by decisions made at Supercars but not communicated publicly (yet).

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Old 6 Apr 2018, 00:24 (Ref:3813111)   #3
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Yeah quite possible, though that would mean T8 know more than the other teams..

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Old 6 Apr 2018, 00:25 (Ref:3813113)   #4
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Yeah quite possible, though that would mean T8 know more than the other teams..

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More likely that all the teams know it IF the decision has been taken - that sort of info is shared amongst the teams as a group.
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Old 6 Apr 2018, 00:28 (Ref:3813114)   #5
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More likely that all the teams know it IF the decision has been taken - that sort of info is shared amongst the teams as a group.
In that case no one knows then.

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Old 6 Apr 2018, 00:41 (Ref:3813116)   #6
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Hope it's been suspended due to the series looking in another direction rather than concerns over it being competitive vs teams like DJR that stick with a tried and true engine package
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Old 6 Apr 2018, 01:15 (Ref:3813118)   #7
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This is not the first time there has been a pushback with the V6TT.

While I'm very happy to see everything remain V8, what is annoying me is the news of when he will see a V6TT (even as a wildcard entry) and then money spent to attend the debut, only for 888 to change their minds again.
How about sort out what you are doing, make an announcement, then stick to it.
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Old 6 Apr 2018, 01:42 (Ref:3813121)   #8
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This is not the first time there has been a pushback with the V6TT.

While I'm very happy to see everything remain V8, what is annoying me is the news of when he will see a V6TT (even as a wildcard entry) and then money spent to attend the debut, only for 888 to change their minds again.
How about sort out what you are doing, make an announcement, then stick to it.
Yeah it seems odd for the usually uber professional/organised T8. Perhaps outside influences affecting descions?
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Old 6 Apr 2018, 01:57 (Ref:3813122)   #9
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In other words, "no money for [not V8] Supercars racing." It doesn't make any difference to Holden's sales numbers, so why should they bother?

Hmm... Supercars HQ will not be pleased. If Nissan and Holden both withdraw, the Supercars series will be in a spot of bother indeed IMO.

Everyone will just limp on racing old Chevy V8s and old Falcons until.........?
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While I'm very happy to see everything remain V8, what is annoying me is the news of when he will see a V6TT (even as a wildcard entry) and then money spent to attend the debut, only for 888 to change their minds again.
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Yeah it seems odd for the usually uber professional/organised T8. Perhaps outside influences affecting descions?
I dunno if troll or dumb, but Holden was homologating this engine, 888 was simply going to be the agent that provided it to teams.

Holden has decided to stop the program, not 888.
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In other words, "no money for [not V8] Supercars racing." It doesn't make any difference to Holden's sales numbers, so why should they bother?

Hmm... Supercars HQ will not be pleased. If Nissan and Holden both withdraw, the Supercars series will be in a spot of bother indeed IMO.

Everyone will just limp on racing old Chevy V8s and old Falcons until.........?
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I wouldn't be surprised if this was connected to how badly Holden are doing sales wise at the moment. Without a volume seller such as the Commodore the company must be bleeding cash. I cant see sales improving in the short-mid term either. With sales at such a low how can any company be putting money into motorsport?
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Old 6 Apr 2018, 02:40 (Ref:3813132)   #13
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I wouldn't be surprised if this was connected to how badly Holden are doing sales wise at the moment. Without a volume seller such as the Commodore the company must be bleeding cash. I cant see sales improving in the short-mid term either. With sales at such a low how can any company be putting money into motorsport?
It is certainly a sad situation.

I spent some time last week driving the four cylinder turbo version. There is nothing inherently wrong with it - yes the front wheel drive is noticeable, but only when the boy racer takes over.

The only criticism I could make is that the view out of the rear window is quite restricted.

However the dealer from which the car came from has sold only 1 to date...........
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Old 6 Apr 2018, 03:00 (Ref:3813135)   #14
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Holden has decided to stop the program, not 888.
Exactly. Nothing to do with T888, they have been told by Holden is the way I read it.
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I dunno if troll or dumb, but Holden was homologating this engine, 888 was simply going to be the agent that provided it to teams.

Holden has decided to stop the program, not 888.
I don't troll and not too happy being labeled dumb either

I was referring to not just this change but the previous Clipsal debut plan also.

Maybe Holden are pulling the strings but I can't see 888/Roland Dane sitting back being told what to do, working hard to achieve it only to then be told to not worry anymore without having some input about direction via meetings along the way.
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