MP4-19B is Ready to Test/first pics (merged!) - Page 3

DriverT · 2 Jun 2004, 08:44 (Ref:991201)

When do they race at Zhuhai then?

MADDOG-99 · 2 Jun 2004, 08:51 (Ref:991207)

Do you think they use the AA or the RAC?

Led ZeppF1 · 2 Jun 2004, 09:33 (Ref:991238)

According to BBC Sport, the car is expected to make its race debut next month, although McLaren will not say at which race that might be.

McLaren chief executive officer Martin Whitmarsh said the team had not decided when it would race.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/3766235.stm

Logrence · 2 Jun 2004, 10:06 (Ref:991269)

It looks a bit nicer than before I think - not so weedy and fragile. A bit more Dannii than Kylie.

enemy-ace · 2 Jun 2004, 11:05 (Ref:991331)

Maybe it's an illusion, but it looks to me like Kimi is sitting lower in the car as well.

1200Datto27 · 2 Jun 2004, 11:41 (Ref:991366)

Thats a nasty looking finish to the end of the exhaust pipe, It looks almost like it was a last minute add on. Also the pipe that is visible does not look like Inconel.

shiny side up! · 2 Jun 2004, 12:42 (Ref:991430)

From the pics that Led ZeppF1 posted, you can clearly see the heat shielding on the front leg of the upper A-arm and on the pushrod...

Gt_R · 2 Jun 2004, 14:29 (Ref:991566)

Mclaren should just use the new car from the next race onwards..

Risky? You think Mclaren have anything left to risk now?

The old car can't even finish half a race, and i doubt the new car can do worse than that.

I personally think letting at least one driver use the new car to test the car and get used to working and setting up the new car would actually help speed up the program a little.

jhansen · 2 Jun 2004, 16:15 (Ref:991689)

I thought the same thing GT R. What do they have to lose? They are already well back in 6th spot in the constructors race (5 points adrift of Sauber). Kimi and David are so far behind that they'd do anything just to have a shot at a victory this year. They've already tossed any aspirations of their standings in the driver's race seeing as they can't challenge for number one. Why not give one of the boys the "B" spec car and run it, or give it to them both. As mentioned, many of the parts are the same, the engine is the same, what is there to test? Just go for it.

KA · 2 Jun 2004, 16:29 (Ref:991707)

Quote:

Originally posted by jhansen
I thought the same thing GT R. What do they have to lose? They are already well back in 6th spot in the constructors race (5 points adrift of Sauber). Kimi and David are so far behind that they'd do anything just to have a shot at a victory this year. They've already tossed any aspirations of their standings in the driver's race seeing as they can't challenge for number one. Why not give one of the boys the "B" spec car and run it, or give it to them both. As mentioned, many of the parts are the same, the engine is the same, what is there to test? Just go for it.

Makes sense to me- if the new MP4/19B proves faster straight out of the box than the original car,, then they may as well race it asap- even with a few teething troubles it can't be much less reliable than the MP4/19 has been so far, so they may as well take the risk and give Kimi and DC something worth driving on a Sunday.....

flor · 2 Jun 2004, 17:04 (Ref:991742)

Quote:

Originally posted by 1200Datto27
Thats a nasty looking finish to the end of the exhaust pipe, It looks almost like it was a last minute add on. Also the pipe that is visible does not look like Inconel.

it is similar to the old version of the car

Kicking-back · 2 Jun 2004, 17:25 (Ref:991763)

Original plan was to give it a debut at Hockenheim.

That may be brought forward to Magny Cours.

It can't be run at Canada and America because there won't be enough parts ready in time.

naughtymutt · 2 Jun 2004, 17:37 (Ref:991782)

Quote:

Originally posted by Kicking-back
It can't be run at Canada and America because there won't be enough parts ready in time.

Cant they just borrow some parts from Renault?

Knowlesy · 2 Jun 2004, 18:36 (Ref:991841)

Damn....missed the unveiling!

I think the car looks better than before.....it looks faster.(you know those feelings you get just by looking at still pics

)

Nice and meaty and the times are fairly impressive too. Why not race it from the next round Ron?

tblincoe · 2 Jun 2004, 20:36 (Ref:991962)

the reason why it will be raced in france and not for the next two races is because they can test the car in europe over the next month which would be impossible if it were in the states

Nizmo32_josh · 2 Jun 2004, 23:41 (Ref:992108)

Oh oh!!!!!!

"Asked when the new car could be given it’s competitive debut. Whitmarsh said: “No decision has been taken about the possible race introduction as it all depends on the progress we make in testing"

Malcom Malcom, please dont give us another MP4-18!!!

Kicking-back · 2 Jun 2004, 23:43 (Ref:992109)

Quote:

Originally posted by Nizmo32_josh
Oh oh!!!!!!

"Asked when the new car could be given it’s competitive debut. Whitmarsh said: “No decision has been taken about the possible race introduction as it all depends on the progress we make in testing"

Malcom Malcom, please dont give us another MP4-18!!!

You're exagerrating.

And it's Martin not Malcolm

Hazard · 2 Jun 2004, 23:51 (Ref:992112)

Yeah, at least the MP4/17 could finish races. Since neither the MP4/18 nor 19 can, the 19B must at least have that 'skill'.

Anyway, what's Whitmarsh got to do with the car? - I thought he was supposed to be running the Ilmor factory now...shouldn't he be more worried about getting an engine ready.

Nizmo32_josh · 3 Jun 2004, 00:28 (Ref:992133)

Yer i was never good with names... haha

I must also point out that the manifold runners must be extremely short judging by where the exhausts exit!

And it was Malcolm oops... MARTIN that took responsibility for the MP4-18 btw.

http://f1total.com/bilder/2004/tests/sil03/z029.jpg

Led ZeppF1 · 7 Jun 2004, 02:51 (Ref:995744)

McLaren's CEO Martin Whitmarsh admits the MP4-19B is likely to race when F1 returns to Europe.

“We haven't made a decision in terms of race introduction, and it's certainly not our intention to have it for Canada and the USA,” said Whitmarsh. “But France is realistic assuming that the benefits warrant the risks of pushing a car that early into the race programme.

http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?s=5&id=27743

Andrew2001 · 7 Jun 2004, 04:01 (Ref:995774)

It looks like Satan's little bro.
*Crosses fingers and everything else conceivable...*
I doubt it will just win a race like that, but it could be the base to re-gain a position (by plowing BAR and Renault out of the way) to take the top off Ferrari, a long way to go tho.....

Led ZeppF1 · 7 Jun 2004, 08:55 (Ref:995921)

And, here is completed's Autosport interview with Martin Whitmarsh about "McLaren's nightmare".

http://www.autosport.com/featuresitem.asp?id=27740&s=5

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