I'm just saying: HPD, you are embarrassing Soichiro Honda

[the real Stig]

You had 18months jump on Ilmor, you wrote the rules for the engine. You can't win a championship.

Chevy didn't join the race for until you'd had 18 month (wtf) head start on engine design. You should have been soooooooo far in front as not to be contested. Yet you've not been so much as an "also ran". Drivers champs don't count. Indy 500s don't count. Where are the manufacturer wins?

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by the real Stig

You had 18months jump on Ilmor, you wrote the rules for the engine. You can't win a championship.

Chevy didn't join the race for until you'd had 18 month (wtf) head start on engine design. You should have been soooooooo far in front as not to be contested. Yet you've not been so much as an "also ran". Drivers champs don't count. Indy 500s don't count. Where are the manufacturer wins?

Not to day they weren't and not for the last few races. Honda's resurgence is no fluke.

[10TENTHS]

It's not as though the Japanese side of the business has been amazing, see F1 and Super GT for examples.