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Old 6 Apr 2014, 19:51 (Ref:3389447)   #26
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Old 8 Apr 2014, 10:51 (Ref:3390129)   #27
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Old 8 Apr 2014, 16:48 (Ref:3390275)   #28
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Full season entry list revealed, 30 cars: http://www.fiaetcc.com/html/uploaded...l%20season.pdf

This does not include drivers such as Grachev who are only doing selected rounds
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Old 8 Apr 2014, 21:51 (Ref:3390352)   #29
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I wonder why there are not seat Leon ex wtcc in the tc2t class
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Old 8 Apr 2014, 22:09 (Ref:3390357)   #30
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I wonder why there are not seat Leon ex wtcc in the tc2t class
because they s**k ?? except the Lada they were probably the worst TC2 turbo car on the grid last season
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Old 9 Apr 2014, 15:11 (Ref:3390557)   #31
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because they s**k ?? except the Lada they were probably the worst TC2 turbo car on the grid last season
There were no TC2 Turbo SEATs (or any 'TC2 turbo cars') on the grid last season in ETCC. The SEATs last season were the older normally aspirated cars, with the diesel having been banned.

I'd wager the TC2T version of the SEAT would be quicker than the BMW turbo, as was proven last year with the cars run by ALL-INKL, Tuenti Racing etc. in the WTCC.
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Old 9 Apr 2014, 15:30 (Ref:3390565)   #32
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Yep, in the hands of a good team the T2CT Leons would definitely be competative in ETCC.
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Old 9 Apr 2014, 21:05 (Ref:3390649)   #33
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Also surprised no team from WTCC moved here though it could have been a good chance to sit out the 2014 season.

Judging from the entry list, my prediction
1) TC2T - Karamyshev vs Homola\Engstler
2) TC2 - Fulin vs nobody
3) SMT - Pfister vs nobody, though a few youngsters may surprise
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Old 9 Apr 2014, 21:10 (Ref:3390651)   #34
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TC2T - Skuz vs Engstler
TC2 - Fulin vs Vesnic
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Old 15 Apr 2014, 21:11 (Ref:3393034)   #35
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Paul Ricard entry list - the 30 full season entries plus Grachev/Proteam:

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Old 17 Apr 2014, 12:26 (Ref:3393829)   #36
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Team Niinivirta all the mechanics are the Tampere University of Applied Sciences students. Niinivirta team principal is Aku father Jukka.
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 17:23 (Ref:3394004)   #37
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Paul Ricard entry list - the 30 full season entries plus Grachev/Proteam:

http://fiaetcc.com/html/uploadedFile...0Castellet.pdf
Good entrylist
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 08:51 (Ref:3394823)   #38
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Free practice 1:
http://www.fiaetcc.com/html/Read_News.asp?idNews=1390

Free practice 2:
http://www.fiaetcc.com/html/Read_News.asp?idnews=1391

Free practice 3:
http://www.fiaetcc.com/html/Read_News.asp?idnews=1392

Chevy dominance is not a surprise, but didn't expect such pace from Skuz
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 11:59 (Ref:3394920)   #39
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Qualifying wise the top 10 are:

1. Karamyshev 1:33.964
2. Skuz (+1.057)
3. Engstler (+1.529)
4. Homola (+2.150)
5. Kiss (+2.706)
6. Grachev (+3.032)
7. Fulin (+3.134)
8. Bragin (+3.992)
9. Matejovsky (+4.234)
10 Pfister (+4.271)

The (nice) surprise for me is Norbert Kiss in the Alfa - qualified top TC2 car in fifth, faster than Grachev and Biter in the TC2T BMWs and 4/10s faster than Fulin.

From what I can remember Skuz tends to qualify better than he races so hopefully behind Karamyshev they will be a good battle between Skuz, Engstler and Homola in Race 1.
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 17:56 (Ref:3395148)   #40
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Should be a walkover for Karamyshev. Expected TC2T BMWs to be faster, to be honest. Don't really expect to see Skuz battle for the victory. Surprised by Kiss' performance too
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Old 20 Apr 2014, 00:00 (Ref:3395302)   #41
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weird that Engstler lap time was faster in etcc than in the wtcc
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Old 22 Apr 2014, 12:25 (Ref:3396666)   #42
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I noticed that Biter was running some funky windowframes on his (ex-ROAL) BMW, well visible on the picture below next to Fulin's 'normal' BMW:



Does anybody know what their function is?
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Old 22 Apr 2014, 20:39 (Ref:3396913)   #43
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I noticed that Biter was running some funky windowframes on his (ex-ROAL) BMW, well visible on the picture below next to Fulin's 'normal' BMW:



Does anybody know what their function is?
Is it possible, that he uses carbonfiber doors? Or maybe at least some kind of lexan windows?
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Old 23 Apr 2014, 14:53 (Ref:3397276)   #44
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Was the season opening on TV somewhere or is there no coverage?
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Old 23 Apr 2014, 15:08 (Ref:3397284)   #45
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Is it possible, that he uses carbonfiber doors? Or maybe at least some kind of lexan windows?
That was also my first idea, but then I read that the BMW's are complaining about their high weight. So I doubt they're allowed to run those?
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Old 23 Apr 2014, 15:31 (Ref:3397292)   #46
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Was the season opening on TV somewhere or is there no coverage?
it was due at 6.00pm yesterday but as we know snooker could have delayed it by miles
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Old 23 Apr 2014, 16:09 (Ref:3397318)   #47
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Since last year they are allowed:
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27 April 2013 09:08 CARBON FIBRE DOORS FOR THE BMW CARS
The WTCC competitors who run in BMW 320 TC cars have been allowed from this event to mount three carbon fibre doors, providing the driver’s door remains the original one.
The decision was taken by the FIA Touring Car Committee, upon a request from BMW Motorsport, to help teams to reach the minimum weight of 1150 kilos. In the same decision the Committee rejected the request to remove the hat rack, because this meant cutting part of the body shell.
Six BMW cars out of the seven entered in the WTCC Race of Slovakia benefitted from this decision, while Franz Engstler will have to wait until the next races in Budapest.

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Old 23 Apr 2014, 19:03 (Ref:3397402)   #48
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That was the case in WTCC, but apparently they revised that again for ETCC this year:

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2014/...ght-advantage/
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Old 10 May 2014, 23:17 (Ref:3404728)   #49
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Norbert Kiss in his ancient Alfa 156 just one second slower than the TC2T Cruzes

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Old 17 May 2014, 20:48 (Ref:3407330)   #50
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I think ETCC is more fun to watch than WTCC so far. The variety of cars and talent of drivers makes it fun .

Has the Alfa got any more waivers (except the extended homologation)? If not, someone please give Norbert Kiss a drive in WTCC!
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