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Old 31 Jul 2013, 05:37 (Ref:3284056)   #16
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So Sauber is saved from their troubles ?!?
I am not sure anyone in the media has bothered to find out. It is still dreadfully unclear as to what this new Russian money actually does for Sauber.
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Old 31 Jul 2013, 07:56 (Ref:3284085)   #17
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getting back to Sauber though, do they still need to make a deal for an engine next year? surely that deal/discount will come with a driver as well.

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I don't know about that, but if they don't, McLaren may as well push for one season just to put Kevin Magnussen on the deal. And that guy is seriously quick. They're probably going to keep Ferrari engines if they haven't already.
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Old 31 Jul 2013, 10:34 (Ref:3284132)   #18
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being realistic for a second, sauber are going to need a decent experienced driver alongside sirotkin if that comes through. will there be anyone available who won't want an arm and a leg in salaries and who can bring a personal sponsor or two?

i think mclaren would be far better dropping magnussen at marussia, in exchange for a bit of dough and some consultancy work to get the most out of the money they have coming in...
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being realistic for a second, sauber are going to need a decent experienced driver alongside sirotkin if that comes through. will there be anyone available who won't want an arm and a leg in salaries and who can bring a personal sponsor or two?

i think mclaren would be far better dropping magnussen at marussia, in exchange for a bit of dough and some consultancy work to get the most out of the money they have coming in...
There's a Japanese bloke who has a bit of money and is tenured at the team. I don't know if I'd call him a steady hand, though.
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being realistic for a second, sauber are going to need a decent experienced driver alongside sirotkin if that comes through. will there be anyone available who won't want an arm and a leg in salaries and who can bring a personal sponsor or two?

i think mclaren would be far better dropping magnussen at marussia, in exchange for a bit of dough and some consultancy work to get the most out of the money they have coming in...
It's rather a shame things haven't worked out between Nico and Sauber, because he could be quite a good choice and it seems there aren't likely to be many better places for him to go unless it's a swap with someone.

Magnussesn and Bianchi at Marussia would make an interesting comparison for McLaren and Ferrari...
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i'd like to think that ferrari fancy turfing massa out and bunging bianchi in for next season. he hasn't done anything stupid or been outpaced by chilton or anything, so theres no obvious reason why not.
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I am not sure anyone in the media has bothered to find out. It is still dreadfully unclear as to what this new Russian money actually does for Sauber.
That's my take on it too. This is what was being reported 3 days ago.
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Mexican and Russians, a nice combination.
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According to Grandprix.com, the money has yet to appear...

"Monisha Kaltenborn has admitted Sauber's Russian rescue deal is facing delays."

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According to Grandprix.com, the money has yet to appear...

"Monisha Kaltenborn has admitted Sauber's Russian rescue deal is facing delays."

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns26066.html
I was skeptical before, but this is laughable.
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I'd be very surprised if it didn't happen. These appear to be state companies private investors have invested into but state entities nevertheless and if anyone delivers; it should be them. These companies wouldn't be investing if it didn't come from the very top and I mean at a level higher than Sirotkin The Elder.
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Maybe Sirotkin will have another year in FR3.5 where he can get some wins and prove his worth...

...and Robin Frijns has always been in the frame for a Sauber seat. If it wasn't for Telmex I'm pretty sure he'd be driving Gutierrez's car and actually have some points.
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Maybe Sirotkin will have another year in FR3.5 where he can get some wins and prove his worth...

...and Robin Frijns has always been in the frame for a Sauber seat. If it wasn't for Telmex I'm pretty sure he'd be driving Gutierrez's car and actually have some points.
I don't think so. I imagine the money is strictly on condition that Sirotkin is driving that car next year, particularly at Sochi.
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