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Old 28 May 2017, 13:50 (Ref:3736704)   #51
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Congrats to Vettel on his second win at Monaco and to Ferrari on their first 1-2 in a while. I can't help but feel Ferrari's pitstops were ''engineered'' in Vettel's favour, then again he is the points leader.
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Old 28 May 2017, 13:51 (Ref:3736705)   #52
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Old 28 May 2017, 13:51 (Ref:3736706)   #53
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Two into wall in same corner and DR tags wall as well. Really bad grip (oil, marbles?) slightly off line?

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Has Kimi ever looked more "filthy "?! Now he knows how Rubens and Feillipe felt...
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Old 28 May 2017, 13:54 (Ref:3736710)   #55
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Congrats to Vettel on his second win at Monaco and to Ferrari on their first 1-2 in a while. I can't help but feel Ferrari's pitstops were ''engineered'' in Vettel's favour, then again he is the points leader.
They had to pit Kimi because Bottas and the others pitted. Since the gap came down, if Bottas was fast on new tyres he'd have leaped both for the lead. As it turned out, Bottas wasn't fast but they didn't know that at the time. When Vettel put in purple and green sectors in clean air, they knew he could stay out. Kimi also got stuffed with traffic, but they had to do it to cover Bottas.

Sometimes pitting early is an advantage. Today it wasn't. But had Bottas and the Red Bulls been fast then it would've worked out a different way and Kimi would've won.
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Old 28 May 2017, 13:59 (Ref:3736715)   #56
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They had to pit Kimi because Bottas and the others pitted. Since the gap came down, if Bottas was fast on new tyres he'd have leaped both for the lead. As it turned out, Bottas wasn't fast but they didn't know that at the time. When Vettel put in purple and green sectors in clean air, they knew he could stay out. Kimi also got stuffed with traffic, but they had to do it to cover Bottas.

Sometimes pitting early is an advantage. Today it wasn't. But had Bottas and the Red Bulls been fast then it would've worked out a different way and Kimi would've won.
Kimi was had over - end of
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Old 28 May 2017, 14:00 (Ref:3736716)   #57
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Old 28 May 2017, 14:02 (Ref:3736718)   #58
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I had picked Kimi to win one race this year. That should have been it.

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Old 28 May 2017, 14:06 (Ref:3736719)   #59
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well always look forward to this race and as usual lack of overtaking and the cars processing around always spoils things, only real excitement provided by Jensen trying to overtake.
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Old 28 May 2017, 14:09 (Ref:3736723)   #60
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They had to pit Kimi because Bottas and the others pitted. Since the gap came down, if Bottas was fast on new tyres he'd have leaped both for the lead. As it turned out, Bottas wasn't fast but they didn't know that at the time. When Vettel put in purple and green sectors in clean air, they knew he could stay out. Kimi also got stuffed with traffic, but they had to do it to cover Bottas.

Sometimes pitting early is an advantage. Today it wasn't. But had Bottas and the Red Bulls been fast then it would've worked out a different way and Kimi would've won.
Watching the interview with Kimi, I think he might disagree.
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Old 28 May 2017, 14:13 (Ref:3736725)   #61
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Two into wall in same corner and DR tags wall as well. Really bad grip (oil, marbles?) slightly off line?

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Sorry for quoting myself... based upon podium interview wit DR, it seems to have been cold tires due to SC period.

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Bit odd. Cold tyres are a norm under SC and 2 of the worlds best binned it. One under yellow itself. A bit amateur hour.
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Watching the interview with Kimi, I think he might disagree.
He might well do, but normally we consider pitting first an advantage because that's usually how it goes. And we consider not covering cars pitting for the undercut a silly thing to do. Ferrari did it by the book for Kimi - pitted the leader first and only to cover those going for the undercut. That worked, as Kimi only just came out ahead of the other cars. So if they'd waited a lap then they'd have probably lost the lead. Ferrari had no choice to pit Kimi because the cars behind were faster. Vettel having extra speed when he was released meant he didn't have to be pitted, and that's what made the difference.

Had they pitted Vettel first and Kimi second then they'd have lost the lead and we'd all be calling them daft for throwing away a 1-2.
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Well even less overtaking than usual thanks to these new cars, but plenty of stories

For me Vettel just outdrove Kimi and Kimi just lost the motivation after that, which is why he nearly got caught by Ricciardo, one wonders if the Honey Badger would have been in front if he hadn't screwed up quali

Button's penalty for me robbed us of a good race for him, as he looked good in the car. Now he's got a grid penalty for the incident, if we ever see him again!

Lewis did well to salvage some points on a difficult weekend, so well done

Finally, whoever thought of the free pass SC rule needs to be got rid of
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Ferrari didn't screw Kimi, Kimi screwed Kimi. He was slow on the new tyres (still in 1m 16s), he was too slow on the old tyres and holding up Seb allowing Bottas and the RB's to almost catch them. Ferrari had to pit him or the undercut probably would have worked and he would have been 5th.

They just didn't expect Seb to suddenly go 2 secs faster once he had clean air.

Kimi also couldn't get close enough to backmarkers for them to get the blue flag. Vettel is right up his jacksy meanwhile Kimi still a mile away from Jense and Pascal. They did certainly make it easier for Bottas though.

Oh what really harked me off is everyone pitting or making mistakes to allow that bloody Hamilton to run long and pass them all and end up 7th.
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Ferrari didn't screw Kimi, Kimi screwed Kimi. He was slow on the new tyres (still in 1m 16s), he was too slow on the old tyres and holding up Seb allowing Bottas and the RB's to almost catch them. Ferrari had to pit him or the undercut probably would have worked and he would have been 5th.

They just didn't expect Seb to suddenly go 2 secs faster once he had clean air.

Kimi also couldn't get close enough to backmarkers for them to get the blue flag. Vettel is right up his jacksy meanwhile Kimi still a mile away from Jense and Pascal. They did certainly make it easier for Bottas though.

Oh what really harked me off is everyone pitting or making mistakes to allow that bloody Hamilton to run long and pass them all and end up 7th.

And Hamilton had the cheek to criticise Ferrari and Vettel for doing exactly that! A tactic he himself has used numerous times in the past. This man really needs to grow up, and face up to his own mistakes. Oh! No of course, it was all the fault of the car ... silly me.
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And Hamilton had the cheek to criticise Ferrari and Vettel for doing exactly that! A tactic he himself has used numerous times in the past. This man really needs to grow up, and face up to his own mistakes. Oh! No of course, it was all the fault of the car ... silly me.
His car really wasn't too bad on the weekend either was it? When he had clean air he was one of the fastest... so much for that setup issue that they weren't able to fix under parc ferme.

Makes you wonder if he just stuffed up in qualifying.

By the way anyone read the comments where he dropped hints that the Indycar field were weak because Fred went in there and qualified 5th.

Oh what really got me laughing was Niki Lauda at the start when Martin was talking to him, saying Ferrari should run a strategy where they drive slow on purpose to bunch the field up. Um, for what purpose? So Hamilton can undercut them? It's like he was trying to fool them into a strategy switch. Perhaps he meant just the 2nd place Ferrari, but he didn't say that.
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