Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Clubmans Rallycross Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Other Motorsports > Rallying & Rallycross

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19 Oct 2001, 15:42 (Ref:162972)   #1
JTBK
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location:
N Ireland
Posts: 62
JTBK should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Makinnen in huge shunt

96: Makinnen in huge shunt after hitting a cow and dropping down ravine

00: McRae in serious accident, both Evo's crash out in spectacular style.

01:Tommi Makinen crashed out in Corsica, Co-Driver taken to hospital.

Is the Corsica rally safe? Has it ever been?
JTBK is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Oct 2001, 16:26 (Ref:162989)   #2
SJ Spode
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 1,083
SJ Spode should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
And not forgetting the deaths of Attilio Bettega, Henri Toivonen and the Sergio Cresto on the event in 1986; accidents which contributed to the end of the Group B Rally Car era.

The other thing to think about is that then there were still night stages on the rally!!!!

Is the rally unsafe? I don't know. There seem to be stages on many of the Championship's rounds where any accident could be a biggy. That was shown last time on the San Remo, when Jesus Puras hit an outside wall on a corner on the first stage of Leg Two. His Citroen caught the end of the wall and turned back across the road. If he'd have gone a half metre to the left there was a gap and the car would have gone out into ?????
SJ Spode is offline  
Quote
Old 19 Oct 2001, 23:38 (Ref:163119)   #3
gomick
Race Official
Veteran
 
gomick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Australia
Gobur 3719...
Posts: 10,259
gomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
good for the championship both mcrae and makkinen not scoring - gives burns and sainz and rovanpera chance to close right up in points - will they take there chances and go for it
gomick is offline  
Quote
Old 20 Oct 2001, 04:59 (Ref:163171)   #4
Crash Test
Veteran
 
Crash Test's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Australia
Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 9,208
Crash Test should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridCrash Test should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Holy Cow alright!

Not only was it a massive crash, it only just pulled up before diving down a 100m cliff....they had to secure the car having a jeep jull on it to make sure it didn't keep going over the cliff with the guys were still in it....

Scary scary stuff...
Crash Test is offline  
Quote
Old 21 Oct 2001, 11:41 (Ref:163499)   #5
RB5
Rookie
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location:
UK
Posts: 22
RB5 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
World Rallying can never be described as totally safe either for drivers or spectators but the sense of danger is one of the things that makes the sport so exciting.The drivers are paid vast amounts of money and as a whole accept the risk just as in other forms of motorsport.Nobody wants to see drivers hurt but how do you make the events safe when almost every round has fatal accidents a possibility?
RB5 is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Oct 2001, 16:39 (Ref:163999)   #6
Liz
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location:
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 12,451
Liz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridLiz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Some of these events appear to be more dangerous than others, though I can't see how any rally driver's mother can sleep nights during the season! With two near-death crashes in two years, this Corsica rally looks to be more dangerous than the Portuguese one they just cancelled.

How is the co-driver? I heard he was to have surgery on his back, and that was all.
Liz is offline  
Quote
Old 23 Oct 2001, 15:57 (Ref:164495)   #7
SJ Spode
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 1,083
SJ Spode should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
The lastest on Risto from Autosport.com is that following a successful four-hour operation on Monday to stabilise a fractured vertebra, Mannisenmaki is described to be in a comfortable condition by Mitsubishi Ralliart's team doctor Paul Trafford, who said the operation went "very well". He is already moving his legs and should return home this Saturday. He will be transferred by air ambulance to Finland, where he will begin his recuperation.

He's thought to be back in the cars by the end of the year or early in 2002. Finland's Timo Hantunen will partner Tommi Makinen on Rally Australia while Risto recovers.
SJ Spode is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Nov 2001, 01:46 (Ref:175282)   #8
Liz
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location:
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 12,451
Liz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridLiz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I have since heard that Tommi has a broken back as well. How can he race?
Liz is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Nov 2001, 09:12 (Ref:175332)   #9
SJ Spode
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 1,083
SJ Spode should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
If I remember rightly Tommi has/had a fractured vertibrae in his back. So not quite a broken back, but you wouldn't want to be in a rally car with that condition, particularly over the famous jumps on some of the Oz stages.

Once again it shows that the rally drivers really are the best in the world.
SJ Spode is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Nov 2001, 09:58 (Ref:175353)   #10
Alan Jones
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location:
Central Coast
Posts: 2,012
Alan Jones should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I'd have to agree with the above though i do wonder a little just where you would draw the line? As to being the best, i think reaction times would have to be off the scale with these guys. To go flatout for X amount of kilometres over a stage you have driven at normal speed once seems an amazing feat in itself.They in my book would have to have the biggest balls of the lot, either that or all be raving lunatics or out of work moonshiners

As a armchair racer who's only experience is racing at a Kart track with a group of guys 3 to 4 times a year, my totally uninformed opinion would have to be the stars of rally have the harder job driving wise than our friends in F1 and the other forms of motorsport.
Its not like you only have to learn 5 to 6 kilometres of a track is it. More like 3 to 400

Maybe its nothing more than my extreme jealousy everytime i watch these guys perform. The incar cameras offer some incredible footage.
Alan Jones is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Nov 2001, 11:43 (Ref:175388)   #11
Liz
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location:
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 12,451
Liz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridLiz should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
We went in a rally simulator ride with Colin McRae at Snetterton once (me and a few friends) and I reserve my admiration for the co-drivers (navigators). How they can sit there reading pace notes, with no control over what the car is doing, while they career around corners crammed with spectators leaning over the roadside, and over huge jumps and straight at the side of mountains ... well, that in my book takes real courage! The guys at the wheel are undoubtedly the best drivers in the world -- but for sheer nerve it's got to be those guys in the other seats.
Liz is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Nov 2001, 14:17 (Ref:175466)   #12
SJ Spode
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 1,083
SJ Spode should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
As I've probably mentioned before I had the privledge of being a passenger with Gwyndaf Evans in a SEAT WRC at a RallySprint event at Silverstone last year. It was absolutely awesome. We were in a competition so Gwyndaf was holding nothing back; the acceleration and the braking (when he finally did brake) were incredible, as was the car control. I'll never forget looking out the front window and seeing the armco straight ahead as we powered around the corner, at an angle of somewhere between 45 & 90 degrees.

But you're right Liz about the co-drivers. All I had to do was hang on and enjoy the ride (& not deafen Gwyndaf with any involuntary screams, as the intercom was hooked up). The thought of having to read pace notes (or anything !!!) at the time .... No thanks.

Luckily TV crews were there filming the event, so I've got a great reminder of a fantastic day.
SJ Spode is offline  
Quote
Old 16 Nov 2001, 18:44 (Ref:175558)   #13
touringlegend
Race Official
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Panama
Posts: 8,950
touringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridtouringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridtouringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
If the TV deals make WRC as publicly known as F1, I think we could see some very big wages.
touringlegend is online now  
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Huge CC fans... carsten66 ChampCar World Series 11 6 Apr 2005 01:30
Giaffone's shunt BSchneiderFan IRL Indycar Series 12 15 Jul 2003 08:08
best shunt... gttouring Sportscar & GT Racing 52 22 Apr 2003 19:03
Allan Gurr has huge shunt marcus Australasian Touring Cars. 7 10 Sep 2001 19:46


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:08.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.