2018 TCR UK

[jungle_007]

Josh Price returns for TCR UK season finale

The 19-year-old will drive the same ex-Finlay Crocker Honda Civic FK2 that he raced earlier this year and is aiming for a strong result in the final TCR UK round of 2018.

[KA]

...and another visit for Alex Morgan with the Renault

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...n-park-finale/

[redshoes]

http://www.brscc.co.uk/sites/default...0List%20v2.pdf

13 cars for Donington, although only 12 drivers

[850Estate]

Originally Posted by redshoes

http://www.brscc.co.uk/sites/default...0List%20v2.pdf

13 cars for Donington, although only 12 drivers

I was wondering what team name Josh Price would be entered under - who owns the car he's driving out of interest? I assumed that it was BMR, but evidently not.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by 850Estate

I was wondering what team name Josh Price would be entered under - who owns the car he's driving out of interest? I assumed that it was BMR, but evidently not.

I believe it is still owned by Pyro. BMR only ever leased/rented it.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

The thing is, TCR is (or is trying to be) the defacto standard for touring car racing.

It's ok for them to try in the UK and fail to make a dent in the immovable rock of the hugely popular BTCC.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by Greem

Indeed, nothing wrong with them! I suspect they're built a little more on the robust side compared to the TCR cars though, given that they run rather longer.

Both GT4 and TCR are capable of running 24 hours races, and they do about the same lap times too!

[Sodemo]

Before TCR came along I did think that GT4 might form the basis of a new touring car ruleset, alas it wasn't to be.

[medius]

Both Renault withdrawn from Donington citing "technical issues".

11 for the finals day then. R1 had 13.

[Umai Naa]

I don't think anyone really expects the Renaults to turn up anywhere at this point, let alone be competitive.

[S griffin]

Well they better do something over the winter to increase numbers, otherwise there is zero point it continuing

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Well they better do something over the winter to increase numbers, otherwise there is zero point it continuing

no doubt over the winter they’ll hype it all up and promise the world just like they did before this season. except next time very few teams or drivers will believe any of it and will probably go race somewhere else.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Well they better do something over the winter to increase numbers, otherwise there is zero point it continuing

Are TCR eligible to run in "Saloon Cars"?

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by medius

Both Renault withdrawn from Donington citing "technical issues".

The statement read the cars need suspension work which was identified at a test in Germany.

Call me cynical, but exactly what sort of issue did they identify at the 11th hour? And even if they were intending to race - genuinely intending to race - they'd have been pushing it to get to Donny and setup and partake in free practice.

Too much noise from too many amateurs which a desperate promoter is trying to positive spin.

The professionalism of West Coast and Pyro stand out, everything else is pretty amateur.

Hopefully DL will sign off with a well deserved title very soon now...

[Evantra]

Dan Lloyd is champion!

[Lancsbreaker]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

no doubt over the winter they’ll hype it all up and promise the world just like they did before this season. except next time very few teams or drivers will believe any of it and will probably go race somewhere else.

The commentators (on the TSL live timing feed anyway) were very sure that the series would continue and grow - claiming that every regional iteration of TCR had started with a quiet first year, grown in the second, and then had full grids from year 3......... No idea whether this was PR puff or true, or just that the commentators had to find something so say over the 90 minute delay while they waited for the weather to improve

[Go_For_Pole]

Well, they were saying something valid for many European TCR championships but then again each market is different

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

The commentators (on the TSL live timing feed anyway) were very sure that the series would continue and grow - claiming that every regional iteration of TCR had started with a quiet first year, grown in the second, and then had full grids from year 3......... No idea whether this was PR puff or true, or just that the commentators had to find something so say over the 90 minute delay while they waited for the weather to improve

of course they would talk it up, not down. obviously pr puff and just untrue.
for a start I can think of two TCR series in europe alone that failed after one season and closed down (Belgium and Portugal)

TCR works in countries where there is hole in the market to fill. but in the UK a hole in the market obviously doesn’t exist for those cars.

[medius]

I missed race 2 today but watched race 1. If you hadn't seen them on the grid you'd be forgiven for thinking Lewis Kent, Lines, swift, Wilson and Walkinshaw were even present. Zero coverage on screen for all that effort and expense. I hope race 2 was a different story.

You could arguably say the same about BTCC but in TCR UK it is about spreading screen time between 10 cars not 32.

[Petoli]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

of course they would talk it up, not down. obviously pr puff and just untrue.
for a start I can think of two TCR series in europe alone that failed after one season and closed down (Belgium and Portugal)

TCR works in countries where there is hole in the market to fill. but in the UK a hole in the market obviously doesn’t exist for those cars.

Except TCR Benelux lasted 2 seasons as a standalone series before becoming a series within TCR Europe for 2018

Meanwhile TCR Portugal undertook its 4th season in 2018

TCR Iberico lasted one year where TCR Spain and TCR Portugal where both championships would race together for an Iberico championship and well as their national championship.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Petoli

Except TCR Benelux lasted 2 seasons as a standalone series before becoming a series within TCR Europe for 2018

Meanwhile TCR Portugal undertook its 4th season in 2018

TCR Iberico lasted one year where TCR Spain and TCR Portugal where both championships would race together for an Iberico championship and well as their national championship.

I was using my bad memory but you have still validated my point.
so Benelux failed after two seasons and iberico lasted one. which underlines that not every TCR series has been a success.

this year has proven than there is no hole in the UK motorsport scene for TCR to fill. it finished with less cars than it started with and dipped into single figures a few times. that pretty much says it all.

so who would invest in putting a car into that series next year?

[Alfisti]

Put simply, the expense/ exposure ratio is poor. 200k for a ride with #HARD would appear much more bang for the buck. And for those who that is too rich, Clios have far more exposure and easily sub 100k for a season, unless you're very accident prone.

[btccbloke]

I know weather played a part today, but i must have counted all of 20 spectators... hardly impressive for a final!

That said what racing there was - race 2 especially was quite fun

[Alfisti]

I never went, I have been to most - in hope rather than expectation. Wind swept and moist did not appeal!

Mid October is always going to be asking for iffy weather at Donny. BTCC is the other extreme and runs too early in the year. Given the exposed nature then May to early September is the ideal window IMO.

Good to see Dan get his title. By far the best driver. Although Ash Sutton waltzed off into the distance when he made an appearance... which possibly says more about Ashs superb talent and ability to adapt than anything.

[btccbloke]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I never went, I have been to most - in hope rather than expectation. Wind swept and moist did not appeal!

Mid October is always going to be asking for iffy weather at Donny. BTCC is the other extreme and runs too early in the year. Given the exposed nature then May to early September is the ideal window IMO.

Good to see Dan get his title. By far the best driver. Although Ash Sutton waltzed off into the distance when he made an appearance... which possibly says more about Ashs superb talent and ability to adapt than anything.

As an event, how does it compare to being at BTCC? I know you can't compare a 40k crowd with 40 people but are you aware of the aledged greatness of the event when your there?

True about Dan winning but I agree in a way about when Ash Sutton turned up and blew him away, it's always good to get a title on the CV, but essentially he is a top level BTCC driver who has managed to beat 6 nobodies