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25 Nov 2014, 10:21 (Ref:3478533) | #26 | |
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There is an article in Autosport suggesting why the change was made. Primarilly it says that Mattiacci did not get on well with Bernie where as Arrivabene has a good relationship with Bernie and is also a long standing member of the F1 commision.
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25 Nov 2014, 11:03 (Ref:3478540) | #30 | |
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that depends how he knows him.
if he's up bernie's backside (scuse the expression and resulting mental images) then that's bad. if he knows how bernie works, and knows how to play him... that might not be so bad. it depends on his view of the sport and whether it's entirely ferrari centric or if it's more realistic. |
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The man should be capable of whipping the team into shape, that's the priority. How he gets on with Bernie is secondary. The man is in his 80's, he's not the powerhouse he once was, partly because of his age, principally because of the bribery debacle.
You don't pick fights with Eccelstone but if the team is in chaos or in "transition" as the jargon goes, you better have a guy at the helm that can roll up his sleeves and sort that stuff out ASAP. Arrivabene doesn't seem to be that guy. |
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25 Nov 2014, 11:34 (Ref:3478548) | #32 | |
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there's more than one way of whipping a team into shape too (yeah ok i'm just being awkward this morning sorry).
the italian way of running around yelling at everyone, or the non-italian way of rebuilding it from the ground up. suspect they need a good old staff clear out, but do italian employment laws make that easy and inexpensive? |
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25 Nov 2014, 14:20 (Ref:3478591) | #33 | |
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One thing over looked in the F1 media, is that Marchionne plans to step down at the end of 2018, so things need to happen fast.
http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...09798/0/SEARCH More appropriate theme: Frolic - Luciano Michelini https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=6MYAGyZlBY0 |
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The thought that I had was who replaces Arrivabene at Philip Morris and does that endanger the backing they get. I can imagine that if he did a good job at Philip Morris they will not be too pleased to have him lured away after such a long time. He may have been the one who sold the idea of subliminal advertising that is, IMO, just a bit too subtle and relies on the customer's memory. If there are those in Philip Morris that did not agree this is an opportunity to save costs or redirect the money. Certainly I am sorry for Mattiacci who has ended a long and apparently successful career in the maelstrom that is F1. I got the impression when appointed that he did not really want to be there in the first place, seems Kimi thought he did a good job though, but then Kimi is still there Interesting times |
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25 Nov 2014, 19:50 (Ref:3478672) | #35 | |
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Vettel is probably thinking he can do a 'Schumacher'. Go to Ferrari, turn it around, win championships, become a legend.....
Maybe he has forgotten that Shuey brought a Ross with him! "Hi, Adrien. I've got this great idea....." |
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This is Ferrari and Philip Morris becoming more integrated in response to economic trouble. That's my reading. |
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thinking out of the box, doesn't a one or two year stint as Ferrari TP in addition to his marketing background and long term knowledge of the sport's politics and players put his name into the ring of people who could legitimately replace BE? Ferrari have a lot to lose if the next person in charge wants to treat the teams as financial equals. Italian team plus godfather theme music links has the cynic in me looking for Machiavellian power plays. |
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Im a bit late to the unofficial theme tune party.
But heres my vote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg |
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[QUOTE=chillibowl;3478693]thats my take as well.
thinking out of the box, doesn't a one or two year stint as Ferrari TP in addition to his marketing background and long term knowledge of the sport's politics and players put his name into the ring of people who could legitimately replace BE? Well he certainly would have the right CV , good thought |
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(Adam Parr situation replayed?) Last edited by wnut; 26 Nov 2014 at 07:34. |
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Mattiacci and Alonso – the real story
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/ferrari-in-2014/ But still nothing on why Ferrari dumped Mattiacci |
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Did you ever notice when Ferrari's revolving door rev's faster the cars get slower.
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2015 should be a vintage year for Italians running around foaming at the mouth. I've got ten bob that says they'll have two more team bosses before next Christmas. But no more race wins. |
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I reckon their "pretty red overalls" are only that colour so the blood doesn't show and create a bad impression when they are sticking knives into one another's backs! Still reckon they should give Stefano Domenicali a call, he would probably be very effective without Monty's interference! |
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