[BTCC] BTCC 2017 Rumours & Silly Season

[BLiTZ]

Originally Posted by ExplodeTheApex

Also interesting to see Shell V-Power logo on his helmet - they aren't listed on his website as a personal sponsor so perhaps a Shell V-Power BMW Racing team is on the cards?

Shell signed as a title sponsor for DJRTP in Supercars for the next 3 years starting this year, it's feasible that motorsport could be a greater part of their global marketing strategy.

Shell replaced Castro as BMW's preferred fuel/oil partner a couple of years back. They sponsor one of the cars in DTM:



Whilst it'd be great to see this livery in the BTCC, it seems fuel companies are not interested in sponsorship deals as it doesn't fit with the 'green' image they're trying to persue. (Even Tesco 99's focus was on more mileage rather than the performance side of 99ron).

[lukej]

I can tell you all that TAG Industries is NOT Tony Gilham. I know some of the team and the suggestion it is him gave them a good laugh.

Luke

[Jiiiiiiim]

Originally Posted by thetool

Increased backing? TAG is Tony Gilham!

Well I'm sure the TAG Directors would have something to say about being Tony Gilham, as neither of them are Mr G................................

[Rob877]

Originally Posted by luckn002

Simon Hill's Twitter seems to suggest that HARD will be referred to as "TAG Industries Racing" this year

Hopefully that may mean no green and pink this year!

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

We still don't know what that company is. Apart from Tony's initials......

In the article announcing the Rolec backing for HARD, you can see the TAG Industries logo in the background.

It seems that the TAG Industries branding has started to appear at HARD's workshop.

TAG Industries appears to be this company.

[RED55]

Well lets hope once the big sponsors are on the car, we actually get know what said sponsors actually do , make, or provide, or is this a play on words trying to appear that a world renowned timing and technology business is involved !

Meanwhile on other news Teams wanting to really make progress are going testing next week and the week after ............ #new parts #new drivers #new sponsors.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by RED55

Well lets hope once the big sponsors are on the car, we actually get know what said sponsors actually do , make, or provide, or is this a play on words trying to appear that a world renowned timing and technology business is involved !

theres lots of companies called Tag other than the timing and tech business you mentioned. there was a tag company on the side of a carerra cup car for some years.

[Craner Curves]

I Initially thought it something to do with the Dartford crossing!

[auroan]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

In the article announcing the Rolec backing for HARD, you can see the TAG Industries logo in the background.

It seems that the TAG Industries branding has started to appear at HARD's workshop.

TAG Industries appears to be this company.

Erm.... that picture has the logo on the spoiler... nothing in the workshop.

If it is the Donny company ... they have 2.6M in the bank according to 2016 returns

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by auroan

Erm.... that picture has the logo on the spoiler... nothing in the workshop.

So it is - must up my observation skills.

Not sure why, but I had seen it as a banner on the wall at first viewing....
Can it be a coincidence that the boot is up and the logo is included in the picture....

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by RED55

Well lets hope once the big sponsors are on the car, we actually get know what said sponsors actually do , make, or provide, or is this a play on words trying to appear that a world renowned timing and technology business is involved !

http://www.btcc.net/2016/10/01/lates...and-team-hard/
Audio from when the logos first appeared on the cars. Lots of discussion about being new sponsors but not a single word about what the company actually does.

I realise that not all sponsorship is aimed at the general audience but normally even the casual spectator has some idea who the company is.

[ATF]

Originally Posted by redshoes

http://www.btcc.net/2016/10/01/lates...and-team-hard/
Audio from when the logos first appeared on the cars. Lots of discussion about being new sponsors but not a single word about what the company actually does.

Let's hope they read this forum then! Although everyone's doing a great job of promoting TAG!

[RED55]

Originally Posted by redshoes

http://www.btcc.net/2016/10/01/lates...and-team-hard/
Audio from when the logos first appeared on the cars. Lots of discussion about being new sponsors but not a single word about what the company actually does.

I realise that not all sponsorship is aimed at the general audience but normally even the casual spectator has some idea who the company is.

Exactly my point, I want to see these teams do well, but I cannot stand the amaturish way in which they act sometimes, this is top level, look at the example WSR set, this is how they win things,come on Mr Gilham start and show us you have what it takes to take a BTCC title with a talented driver.
I couldnt care less that companies house say there is x million in the bank, it could be sat in a desert island palm tree as an asset for all we know.

What I want to know, is it going to contribute to 3 CC cars on the podium on a regular basis....

[auroan]

Originally Posted by RED55

I couldnt care less that companies house say there is x million in the bank, it could be sat in a desert island palm tree as an asset for all we know.

What I want to know, is it going to contribute to 3 CC cars on the podium on a regular basis....

Well they won't be able to if they don't have x amount in the bank. So it's important to know that new sponsors can actually fulfill their obligation. Rather than pulling out at the last minute leaving people high and dry, because the sponsor is a dreamer with no real money to invest.

[S griffin]

Interesting to see WSR going to Spain to test. I remember them once saying as an independent team they couldn't afford to do that like Vauxhall did at the time. For me they have got to be getting the dosh from somewhere

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by RED55

Well lets hope once the big sponsors are on the car, we actually get know what said sponsors actually do , make, or provide,

Originally Posted by RED55

What I want to know, is it going to contribute to 3 CC cars on the podium on a regular basis....

So which is more important to you - knowing what the company does, or knowing if they'll put 3 CC cars on the podium?

If TAG Industries are happy with the exposure they are getting from their deal, then Gilham should be given credit for getting more funding into the team surely?

[thetool]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

So which is more important to you - knowing what the company does, or knowing if they'll put 3 CC cars on the podium?

If TAG Industries are happy with the exposure they are getting from their deal, then Gilham should be given credit for getting more funding into the team surely?

It's more of a case if something looks fishy, smells fishy, there's a good chance it may be fishy.

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Interesting to see WSR going to Spain to test. I remember them once saying as an independent team they couldn't afford to do that like Vauxhall did at the time. For me they have got to be getting the dosh from somewhere

See a few posts previous, there are 5 teams going to the same circuit next week to split the costs. Eurotech, Norlin and WSR are the ones I have found confirmation of online.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

See a few posts previous, there are 5 teams going to the same circuit next week to split the costs.

Clever idea.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

See a few posts previous, there are 5 teams going to the same circuit next week to split the costs. Eurotech, Norlin and WSR are the ones I have found confirmation of online.

BMR and Dynamics also going

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

BMR and Dynamics also going

Cheers, I had a feeling Dynamics would be there after last year.

[Rob877]

Originally Posted by RED55

Exactly my point, I want to see these teams do well, but I cannot stand the amaturish way in which they act sometimes, this is top level, look at the example WSR set, this is how they win things,come on Mr Gilham start and show us you have what it takes to take a BTCC title with a talented driver.
I couldnt care less that companies house say there is x million in the bank, it could be sat in a desert island palm tree as an asset for all we know.

What I want to know, is it going to contribute to 3 CC cars on the podium on a regular basis....

I agree to a point. I'm not a fan of all these hashtags and definitely not a fan of their colour scheme (it looks very unprofessional IMO). But I do admire the way Tony Gilham seems to be able to go out there and secure deals, which means we get young talent like Jake Hill on the grid where it may be easier to just put an off the pace gentleman racer with deep pockets in there instead.

[KA]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

got a bit of retro feeling

back in 1987 you didn't have 32 cars on the grid from 4 classes combined but the cars themselves were so exiting to watch and hear all by themselves

for example at 3.40 that 3.5 Rover V8 sound with its Titanic like handling , pure awesomens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiYSYFr36Z8&t=5s

this is missing from 2017, very lose handling cars and some great sound

That brings back a few memories- Thanks a bunch- I'm now feeling very old...

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I'm not sure it's missing from 2017. I would prefer 32 cars, all in the same class, with multiple race winners coming from different teams. Surely that is better than going into a season knowing already who the race winners will be, and which cars will dominate.

BTCC in 2017 is about close racing, not about extreme cars.

There shouldn't be any reason not to have both-For me, touring cars always ought to look like they're a bit of a handful to drive...
Incidentally, '87 wasn't one of the great BTCC seasons in many ways-(a dominant championship win from the 1600 class for Chris Hodgetts), but it still came up with 8 different race winners in 5 different types of car from 12 races..

Originally Posted by RED55

Well lets hope once the big sponsors are on the car, we actually get know what said sponsors actually do , make, or provide, or is this a play on words trying to appear that a world renowned timing and technology business is involved !

Meanwhile on other news Teams wanting to really make progress are going testing next week and the week after ............ #new parts #new drivers #new sponsors.

A bit of searching around reveals that TAG are in the waste management business, registered office in Doncaster, but main site seems to be based in Peterborough- Note the 'TAG Industries' logo on the CC's wing from that Rolec article is in evidence in the background of this pic of a bowls club they also sponsor...

https://www.hugofox.com/community/wh...club-sponsors/

[luckn002]

Originally Posted by Rob877

I'm... definitely not a fan of their colour scheme (it looks very unprofessional IMO)

I must admit I quite liked the HARD livery, it is so different from anything else on the grid and adds a lot of colour. Although the TAG logo at Brands with the white doors didn't fit at all, hope it is weaved into the design this year as they've had months to plan it!

However going by the liveries already revealed by HARD in other series it looks likely it'll be similar to last year (ie pink, green, orange and white)

[S700UBO]

out of last years livery's I was a big fan of Chris Smiley's HARD Avensis!



Really great shade of Blue, HARD' livery has always been about being able to spot the cars a mile off, and surely the main point of anything now-a-days is to get you talking about it.......love it or loathe it...STILL TALKING ABOUT IT!