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Old 12 Apr 2017, 12:24 (Ref:3725836)   #226
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On Inside Supercar Brad Jones made comment on the drivers who saw risk in the pile up and those who saw opportunity. The ones who saw opportunity got back on the gas.

If Fabs copped 35 points for his role. A few might have to watch out.

As for Cam and Lowndes. If Lowndes gets nothing for this (if he actually tapped Cam), based on what happened on the back straight. Does this effectively mean on track square ups are okay?

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Old 12 Apr 2017, 12:29 (Ref:3725837)   #227
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I think square-ups are where they're heading.

However not to be confused with taking someone out.

In the Lowndes/Waters incident, IF Waters was deemed to have carted Lowndes wide, then perhaps it would be fair play IF Lowndes was deemed to have given him a nudge to unsettle the vehicle.
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 00:19 (Ref:3725997)   #228
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McLaughlins Pit call from the team radios. Very interesting..

http://www.foxsports.com.au/motorspo...430d5e32a10594
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 00:39 (Ref:3726003)   #229
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McLaughlins Pit call from the team radios. Very interesting..

http://www.foxsports.com.au/motorspo...430d5e32a10594
definitely is, Not a DJRTP error by the looks of things. Cost him a podium (but no points) Lucky there was no points or there might have been an appeal because of that
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 00:48 (Ref:3726005)   #230
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McLaughlins Pit call from the team radios. Very interesting..

http://www.foxsports.com.au/motorspo...430d5e32a10594
Hmmm...

Interesting indeed.
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 02:28 (Ref:3726024)   #231
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definitely is, Not a DJRTP error by the looks of things. Cost him a podium (but no points) Lucky there was no points or there might have been an appeal because of that
definitely a DJRTP error Pecky, the pit lane call was corrected immediately.

Maybe Ludo had already moved on and stopped listening!
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 02:30 (Ref:3726025)   #232
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definitely a DJRTP error Pecky, the pit lane call was corrected immediately.

Maybe Ludo had already moved on and stopped listening!
Not according to that vision

the call was made by race control, ludo followed it up straight away and scott headed towards pits, then Race control corrected and it was too late

would not have happened if race control had not made an error
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 03:06 (Ref:3726030)   #233
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That mistake was all on race controls shoulders, Ludo simply followed the newest order from race control which was then corrected when it was too late for Ludo to react. unfortunately for Ludo he was too quick on the radio (as he had to be) before the correction was made.

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Old 13 Apr 2017, 05:43 (Ref:3726040)   #234
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McLaughlins Pit call from the team radios. Very interesting..

http://www.foxsports.com.au/motorspo...430d5e32a10594

Gee that is poor from race control.

Its understood now the fault lies elsewhere, but not the best set of circumstances to get a driver and an engineer gelling early in their partnership.

I wonder if this played a part in the decision to change their minds about allocating points.
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 12:24 (Ref:3726082)   #235
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How many times were they told to stop on the grid and all Ludo could say was red flag, red flag.
Had Ludo corrected his call straight away Scot could still have followed the rest.

Certainly a cock up by race control, but Ludo is a long way from blameless.
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 12:46 (Ref:3726087)   #236
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In my opinion, Monsoir Larcroix would be best suited in a role that doesn't have direct communication with the driver during the race.

Mr Lowndes found him quite irritating at times last year.
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Old 13 Apr 2017, 23:42 (Ref:3726237)   #237
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In my opinion, Monsoir Larcroix would be best suited in a role that doesn't have direct communication with the driver during the race.

Mr Lowndes found him quite irritating at times last year.
If we as viewers struggle to understand Mr Lacroix with the benefit of a quiet room and crystal clear teev speakers, how do you reckon a driver would go in a car st speed, his engine running over 7,000 rpm, the racer next to him doing the same, and the one next to them & so on...

Its almost like they need single word codes or somethibg..
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Old 14 Apr 2017, 00:05 (Ref:3726239)   #238
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Everything Ludo said in that video was crystal clear and easy to understand.

It's also quite easy for drivers to hear, they have a helmet and moulded earpieces which combined rarely cause an issue with clarity over the radio. Majority of the time it's the engineers who have a more difficult time hearing and understanding the driver.
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Old 14 Apr 2017, 02:18 (Ref:3726244)   #239
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One has nothing to do with the other...

The non-points scoring piece is a technical rule for not completing sufficient laps.

A professional foul, which is what Mr Coulthard was penalized for, is still a professional foul points or no points.

I bet its not in the menu of points/penalties either, requiring discretion..

Perhaps he can have his points back if the VASA teams send him personally the damages bill from the incident
I believe your words "professional foul" are completely inappropriate in these circumstances.

Indeed there is no use of the term in the SC regulations.

Per Stewards "Coulthard was deemed to have committed a "reckless driving " offence in his contact with Rick Kelly for failing to give racing room to car 15 on exit of turn 3"

Further Coulthard was not held responsible for the carnage that ensured afterwards.

Based on this I believe your last sentence should be deleted as irrelevant.
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Old 14 Apr 2017, 03:26 (Ref:3726249)   #240
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The term "tongue in cheek" is relevent, though.
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Old 15 Apr 2017, 01:56 (Ref:3726489)   #241
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I think square-ups are where they're heading.
I'd hope not. Square-ups have no place in proper motor racing
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Old 17 Apr 2017, 23:06 (Ref:3727433)   #242
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just thought i would thrown this in, might become relevant later in the week

2. DRIVING STANDARDS
The following driving standards will apply:
2.1 Careless Driving
Departing from the Standard of a competent Driver.
2.2 Reckless Driving
Any unintentional action by a Driver which creates serious risk to others.
2.3 Dangerous Driving
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Old 18 Apr 2017, 08:37 (Ref:3727502)   #243
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just thought i would thrown this in, might become relevant later in the week

2. DRIVING STANDARDS
The following driving standards will apply:
2.1 Careless Driving
Departing from the Standard of a competent Driver.
2.2 Reckless Driving
Any unintentional action by a Driver which creates serious risk to others.
2.3 Dangerous Driving
Any intentional action by a Driver which creates serious risk to others.
Is that like widening the track to allow more passing?

isn't motor sport a risk anyway?
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Old 21 Apr 2017, 04:46 (Ref:3728098)   #244
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so lowndes gets a 15 points penalty, which based on where he was (5th) was a 6 point penalty
Cam drops back to 6th, an 18 point penalty

Oh yes, thats a fair penalty, still Karma came back to bite him today
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