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I can only assume Red Bull are in F1 because the owner loves F1. I really doubt that the 40 - 70 age group are big buyers of red bull and if my daughter is anything to go by, the extreme sports they sponsor (such as cliff diving) has a much greater resonance with them.
I think that F1 has bigger problems than merely a disinterested younger population, as my experience of kids is that a surprising proportion actively dislike F1 and everything it represents. The "green brigade" will happily rant on about private jets and pollution caused etc. whilst the politically motivated will complain about GP's in Russia etc. |
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Growing up (I'm now 32), F1 was seen as not just uninteresting, but being pretty uncool. I had zero interest in it until late 2008.
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There's no more next for Marussia as the garage doors are finally shut and all the staff are sadly made redundant.
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7 Nov 2014, 15:59 (Ref:3472528) | #108 | ||
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Gutted for the workers, and all involved in the team.
I may be in the minority, but I enjoyed seeing the battle at the back between Caterham and Marussia each weekend. 2013 British GP - whilst everyone on TV was watching Rosberg waving to the crowd on his slow down lap, Chilton and Var Der Garde were at the concludion of their race long wheel to wheel battle, with Chilton squeezing past on the run up to the line. How many more of these battles have the TV public never seen? Who was not pleased when one of these teams outsmarted the more established crowd in changing conditions, and made it into Q2? Who was not delighted when Bianchi scored those points at Moncao? True racers the lot of them - whether that be at the front or back of the grid. Brought into the sport under false promises that teams could compete on limited budget, only for the established guard to move the goalposts. Whilst Christinan Horner and others are acting like Mr Teflon, looking after no.1, pretending that all is fine, let's hope that in a few seasons time we do not have a 3 team grid like the utter shables of WTCC. |
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Rubbish but not unexpected news. I'd have said that hopefully this would shake some sense into the series, but given some of the comments made recently by the likes of Ferrari and Bernie, I somewhat doubt that. There's no such thing as a budget in F1. If you're not competitive and you get no prize money then nobody is going to back your car. There's only so long that getting a pay driver to fund the entire team will last. Ferrari is the only F1 team that regularly makes a profit, they also get the largest share of the prize money. I think it's going to take something much bigger than this for people to come to their senses, and by which point it'll be too late.
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Bernie Ecclestone quitting would be a starting point if Formula One is to regain some credibility ....
and when questioned recently didn't he say " It's my fault " !!!! Then do something about it Bernie or retire. |
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7 Nov 2014, 21:44 (Ref:3472622) | #111 | |
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Well I have been privileged to know John Booth since his FF days and a more decent person you could never wish to meet - BE has truly shafted the lower F1 fraternity and F1 will be the loser in the long term - truly saddened by this news and the financial effect on employees ...
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I'm quite surprised they folded without the hoopla of trying to find another buyer like Caterham did. I'd say Marussia had a better chance of surviving in F1 then Caterham.
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Administrators are unimaginative functionaries prepared perhaps to do something with a conventional business - but an F1 team? Hopelessly out of their depth.
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Midweek Motorsport on Radio Le Mans have been looking at this for a few weeks now. From their reports, Marussia were in a far, far worse financial situation than Caterham. So this isn't much of a surprise.
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Yahoo Finance reporting that Marussia might not actually be quite dead yet as a consortium is interested in putting a deal together:
"LONDON, UK, Nov. 8, 2014 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- via PRWEB - The Marussia Formula 1 team could still race in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix on 23rd November. A group led by Summit Bespoke Investments and the corporate finance division of White & Company Chartered Accountants have spoken to serious and interested parties and are welcoming interest from new parties about a rescue package that would enable the team to take part." |
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26 Nov 2014, 18:22 (Ref:3478971) | #118 | |
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The cars and all team kit including machine shop, etc come up for auction on 16th and 17th of December.
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Ahhh it's so sad for it to all end like this and so publically especially after Bianchi's misfortune.
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Particularly hollow feeling looking at pic 121 of 128 from the pics link above ... empty desk overlooked by a wall poster of the team featuring Jules ... and none of them are there at the Marussia factory anymore - time (and Bernie's financial grinchery) moved on far too quickly for them, alas.
Just a really sad, empty feeling looking at that scene though - almost the same kind of feeling I get when overlooking Mt Panorama at 10.30pm after the race from the Skyline bird's nest ... nothing more desolate & lonely than a racetrack the night after a meeting ... |
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