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Old 7 Jun 2011, 17:49 (Ref:2892984)   #1
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RLM were just talking to Kaeffer about the Pecom Lola .

Kaeffer said that the idea was to run with a Ferrari engine , but there just wasnt the time to get it done .

Possibily next year then ?
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 18:03 (Ref:2892994)   #2
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Another interesting rumour I heard on RLM is of a 911 surpassing midengined Porsche...

Sounds logicall since the 911 is about as far streched as possible.
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 18:21 (Ref:2893001)   #3
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Another interesting rumour I heard on RLM is of a 911 surpassing midengined Porsche...

Sounds logicall since the 911 is about as far streched as possible.
I think you're probably right about the 911 having reached its limit - but I remember similar stories writing off the 911 in the late Seventies/early Eighties....
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 21:09 (Ref:2893085)   #4
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Another interesting rumour I heard on RLM is of a 911 surpassing midengined Porsche...

Sounds logicall since the 911 is about as far streched as possible.

A 918-based racer is practically official.
http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=603
http://press.porsche.com/news/pdf/91...in_Detroit.pdf

Not a 911 replacement, however.
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 23:47 (Ref:2893164)   #5
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A 918-based racer is practically official.
http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=603
http://press.porsche.com/news/pdf/91...in_Detroit.pdf

Not a 911 replacement, however.
that car is not eligable for gte racing under current regulations, and i don't see why is everyone writing the 911 of, the 997 is at the end of its production, the replacement 991 is said to be much faster, it will have a dfi engine, dsg, and better suspension., and stiffer chassis, witch will add up to it being again among the fastest cars in gte.
I think 911 has a chance and will always have a chance as long as the power numbers stay where they are.
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 18:15 (Ref:2892998)   #6
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RLM were just talking to Kaeffer about the Pecom Lola .

Kaeffer said that the idea was to run with a Ferrari engine , but there just wasnt the time to get it done .

Possibily next year then ?

Didn't have Vitaphone the same plans last year? But there wasn't enough time...
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 20:05 (Ref:2893056)   #7
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Didn't have Vitaphone the same plans last year? But there wasn't enough time...
They had been thinking of dropping a MC12 engine into a Lola , for a P1 .
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 22:27 (Ref:2893126)   #8
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They had been thinking of dropping a MC12 engine into a Lola , for a P1 .
You are right. My mistake.
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 19:52 (Ref:2893052)   #9
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And I think every Sebring, LM, PLM has had the RLM guys talking about whether it was time for Porsche to put the 911 out to pasture and develop the Cayman for GT2.
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 22:24 (Ref:2893124)   #10
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And I think every Sebring, LM, PLM has had the RLM guys talking about whether it was time for Porsche to put the 911 out to pasture and develop the Cayman for GT2.
So far Porsche never wanted to use the Cayman in racing. It made even live hard for teams that wanted to race it.
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Old 7 Jan 2013, 07:19 (Ref:3185833)   #11
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Yeah Sad is porsche got stuck with the wrong icon; the 911. This car is greatly engineered but badly designed, who the hell wants all that weight at the very rear?!! It makes it almost impossible to push it hard at the corner entry phase. The car cant trail brake. But I also understand the advantage of it in some cases, but overall I see that front engine or mid engine is by far the best. Not rear engine. But anyway some still enjoy it. The new models have their engines moved little more towards the middle.
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Old 7 Jun 2011, 22:21 (Ref:2893122)   #12
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RLM were just talking to Kaeffer about the Pecom Lola .

Kaeffer said that the idea was to run with a Ferrari engine , but there just wasnt the time to get it done .

Possibily next year then ?
Probably. Level 5 and the rumored Rob Kauffman/Michael Waltrip team are also rumored to be interested in the Ferrari LMP2 engine. Who knows where the Waltrip team will end up though and I have a feeling that Level 5 may try to move up to LMP1 at some point, but who knows.
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Old 8 Jun 2011, 05:45 (Ref:2893240)   #13
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Yes Arakis, but the word is that there will be a mid-engined car placed between the 911 and the 918. This car will not include all the hybrid malarkey, so it will indeed be eligible for GTE.
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Old 8 Jun 2011, 07:51 (Ref:2893281)   #14
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ok, that would IMO suck big time, the 911 is a legend, and for it to be retired just doesent make any sense to me.
at worst they are below of a second slower then the leading pack in the GTE, thats on normal 90 second tracks. And thats with a 5 year old racecar, based on a 6-7 year old chassis, and a almost 20 year old engine. and thats without any waivers like corvettes and BMWs. Seriosly the 991 gt3 RSR would be more then enough to eliminate that gap.
If they do build a car between the 911 and 918, that would be awsome, but IMO the 911 should stay the GTE contender for porsche if for nothing else for the tradition off it.
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ok, that would IMO suck big time, the 911 is a legend, and for it to be retired just doesent make any sense to me.
at worst they are below of a second slower then the leading pack in the GTE, thats on normal 90 second tracks. And thats with a 5 year old racecar, based on a 6-7 year old chassis, and a almost 20 year old engine. and thats without any waivers like corvettes and BMWs. Seriosly the 991 gt3 RSR would be more then enough to eliminate that gap.
If they do build a car between the 911 and 918, that would be awsome, but IMO the 911 should stay the GTE contender for porsche if for nothing else for the tradition off it.
I think someones afraid that Ferrari lose there Mid engine advantage lol. but seriously I would hate to lose the 911 from GTE. Porsche has always stood for rear engine so I would hate to see that variety lost in GTE racing.
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The word is also that the 991 GT3 will have the new 9A1 engine, which as you know is not a full dry sump engine , and therefore not an appropriate engine for racing. - These are all still rumors. Nothing has yet been confirmed, but.....
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The word is also that the 991 GT3 will have the new 9A1 engine, which as you know is not a full dry sump engine , and therefore not an appropriate engine for racing. - These are all still rumors. Nothing has yet been confirmed, but.....
yeah but couldnt dry sump be integrated for the racing version, I think the regulations alow it.

come on, this is imposible, 10 years befor the classs consited of only 911. in my opinion that would be a huge error by porsche, and a huge hit for the series. I mean 911 are sinonimus with endurance racing, it just wouldnt be the same without them.
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If it looks like a 911, and sounds like a 911, then does it really matter if the engine's in the middle?
After all, it hasn't BEEN a 911 for 20 odd years now! 993,996,997...
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If it looks like a 911, and sounds like a 911, then does it really matter if the engine's in the middle?
After all, it hasn't BEEN a 911 for 20 odd years now! 993,996,997...
Huh?
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There is a long standing rumor of a mid engine 458 competitor coming from Porsche. If true it's still a few years off probably 2016. Who knows if they will build it much less race it. Best not to worry about it too much. The new car is just getting started. I think it makes more sense to speculate about when they put the new engine in it.
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Apologies for posting this here (couldn't find the Aston Martin thread).

According to a friend who was there and has photographic proof, Aston Martin was testing at Donington on Thursday with the Vantage, and interestingly, the B09/60.

Anyone know what that is about? Thought most those cars were owned by collectors these days?

Might be nothing, but given David Richards' recent comments about about a return to LMP1...

Feel free to shoot that idea down in flames.
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Almost no racing engine has a wet sump.
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Hindy pointed out that in his opinion , the ACO should be rolling out the red carpet with respect to Toyota a bit more .

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