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Old 12 Jun 2011, 02:12 (Ref:2896350)   #101
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Eurosport also say some Wirth personel have gone to work for Toyota in Cologne.
It would be nice to know their names...
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Old 12 Jun 2011, 10:12 (Ref:2896810)   #102
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There were to many rumors in the recent years so first see than believe.
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Old 12 Jun 2011, 12:16 (Ref:2896996)   #103
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Nissan guy was on Eurosport last night and said the top brass from Japan, including NISMO, were at Le Mans, with the P1 strongly hinted.
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Old 12 Jun 2011, 13:13 (Ref:2897063)   #104
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Old 12 Jun 2011, 15:05 (Ref:2897139)   #105
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Don't know who it was, head of Nissan UK/marketing, something like that.

Martin Haven was doing everything he could to get him to spill the beans, before jokingly coughing and saying, 'good luck with your new prototype'.
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Old 12 Jun 2011, 16:13 (Ref:2897179)   #106
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It's a Dutchman (or at least his name sounds Dutch).

EDIT Wait that guy is marketing manager of Nissan Europe.
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 13:37 (Ref:2898074)   #107
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Abu Dhabi team to run 2nd Dyson Lola in remaining ALMS rounds ?

Humaid al Masaood & Steven Kane driving aiming for LM next year ?

I wonder might we finaly see Dyson at Le Mans , if sponsorship covers it ? Or will Dyson be involved at all with this project ?
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 13:48 (Ref:2898079)   #108
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The article I read early said they had leased the second car for the remaining ALMS races with a definite eye on LM in the near future but probably not 2012. Looks like they will race as Oryx Racing in the ALMS with Dyson.

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Old 13 Jun 2011, 13:49 (Ref:2898081)   #109
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Smells it's over between Pedro Lamy and Peugeot-Sport from now on
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 14:00 (Ref:2898090)   #110
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The article I read early said they had leased the second car for the remaining ALMS races with a definite eye on LM in the near future but probably not 2012. Looks like they will race as Oryx Racing in the ALMS with Dyson.

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Old 13 Jun 2011, 21:35 (Ref:2898417)   #111
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Lots of positive stuff coming out of this year's race in terms of rumours. I have to agree that if we could have Nissan in LMP1 next year and Mazda in LMP2 that is yet more great progress. To me the amount of Mazda presence has to point to something.
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 21:46 (Ref:2898423)   #112
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I would have to think that Lotterer and Treluyer's success this weekend will be good toward getting the Japanese energized about Le Mans. Maybe not, but it can't hurt.

I'm still not sure what to make of the Nissan rumors. It would be great if they came with a factory team, but I don't know if it'll have the support to make it competitive with Audi and Peugeot. It could be a customer package based on their success with LMP2s. That isn't as exciting, but I guess it is better than nothing. It would put them on equal footing with TMG and HPD I guess.

As for Dyson going to LM, I would hope that they would not go with the MZR-R. Although the engine might be much more reliable now, I don't think it has the speed to be competitive at Le Mans.
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 21:58 (Ref:2898426)   #113
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This Nissan rumour better materialize sooner and in larger quantity than Toyota rumours have done.
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 22:12 (Ref:2898432)   #114
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John Manchester of Zytek was on Eurosport and once again talked about a hybrid they're working on with a partner, saying how it had been proved in Super GT tests.

Given Zytek prepare the Nissan P2 motors, it wouldn't be suprising to see a similar situation in P1.
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 22:21 (Ref:2898435)   #115
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 22:30 (Ref:2898438)   #116
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His freezing out of the #9 car bar a couple of hours during the race. Not confident in his speed seemingly. But just speculation. Not sure what the contract situation is of the drivers.

Personally I believe that if the Oreca/Nissan hook-up is true Peugeot will swoop in for Loic Duval and if there is one guy making way you'd have to say it is Pedro. Maybe even a straight swap...
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The fact that he said after the race that the team had done him wrong by giving him so little driving time, so perhaps God had done the team wrong in return by making them come 2nd. Not the most politic thing to say to someone you want to continue in the employ of.
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Old 13 Jun 2011, 22:45 (Ref:2898449)   #118
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Personally I believe that if the Oreca/Nissan hook-up is true Peugeot will swoop in for Loic Duval and if there is one guy making way you'd have to say it is Pedro. Maybe even a straight swap...
I wonder what excately the Oreca-Nissan connection is if the Nissan rumors are true. Are they just a supplier or will they operate the team? It would not surprise me if they continue to race the Peugeot (or at least a Peugeot diesel engine) if they are just a supplier for Nissan. Of course, if the Nissan thing is just a customer program, perhaps they could run both Nissan and Peugeot. Maybe Peugeot will go for 3 factory diesel hybrids next year and maybe Oreca will run a standard 908 HDi without the hybrid as a backup? Who knows. There are a lot of unanswered questions.

There was some speculation that Nissan or Toyota were funding the Dome LMP project. With TMG hooking up with Lola and Nissan supposedly hooking up with Oreca, can we assume that either the relationship does not exist now or that it never did exist?

EDIT: It would not surprise me if Nissan is working with Zytek in regard to their hybrid package. It does raise an interesting point though: can a petrol hybrid compete with a diesel or a diesel hybrid? I guess everyone will have an opinion about that based on the regs discussions we've had.
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I wonder what excately the Oreca-Nissan connection is if the Nissan rumors are true.
Not a clue but it's all just speculation at this point. In my opinion I don't think Oreca can realistically get further into bed with Nissan in the LMP1 ranks and still expect to run a Peugeot. I can't see Peugeot allowing it.

They will just have to weigh up what they value the most.
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It would not surprise me if Nissan is working with Zytek in regard to their hybrid package. It does raise an interesting point though: can a petrol hybrid compete with a diesel or a diesel hybrid? I guess everyone will have an opinion about that based on the regs discussions we've had.
I remember a comment from Davidson when he first moved to Peugeot from AMR saying that if there was more money spent on the development of the aero and a bit of the engine then the petrols would be competitive. I can't find a link at the moment.
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I remember a comment from Davidson when he first moved to Peugeot from AMR saying that if there was more money spent on the development of the aero and a bit of the engine then the petrols would be competitive. I can't find a link at the moment.
I think a well-funded petrol effort can be competitive. The ex-factory HPD ARX-01e certainly showed a lot more pace than other petrol cars at Sebring. It's really only fair to compare factory efforts to factory efforts and we really don't have any factory petrol efforts to make fair comparisons (I'm not counting the AMR-One).

I think the problem petrol teams are facing is that it is harder to make significant gains with racing petrol engines than it is with racing diesel engines right now. Lots of people have been working hard on squeezing performance out of petrol racing engines for decades, but racing diesels are still fairly new (yes, there have been diesels racing for decades, but certainly not to the scale of petrol engines) and it's possible to make significant jumps in just a few months.
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You gotta believe a Toyota and Wirth Research tieup would be lethal considering the Wirth CFD and the Toyota Windtunnel but it seems unlikely as Wirth can get the Aero done but Toyota can get the Aero done as well.

Things to look forward to?

Wirth Honda P1?
Nissan P1
Toyota P1
Hyundai P1(perhaps Lemans)

Of all these i am looking forward most to the Toyota P1.Cnsidering the expense will be alot less than f1 we all know they can bring the big bucks to anything and can literally buy Laptime
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You gotta believe a Toyota and Wirth Research tieup would be lethal considering the Wirth CFD and the Toyota Windtunnel but it seems unlikely as Wirth can get the Aero done but Toyota can get the Aero done as well.

Things to look forward to?

Wirth Honda P1?
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Hyundai P1(perhaps Lemans)

Of all these i am looking forward most to the Toyota P1.Cnsidering the expense will be alot less than f1 we all know they can bring the big bucks to anything and can literally buy Laptime
Would be great to see toyota pick up Wirth and merge them with the rebelion team to make that the factory effort. I think that would give a great potential winner when the rules change again to hopefully favor petrolcars in 2014.
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Some Wirth people apparently went to Toyota, not Wirth working with Toyota.
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