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15 Dec 2004, 21:03 (Ref:1180530)
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Pescarolo 2005!
Here is the new Pescarolo C60 for 2005. Dosen't look bad for a hybrid vesion!
 Edited to : fix the link to the pic, ad the website that published the pic (Jérôme Mugnier's Virages), copyright beeing owned by l'Équipe - Fab Last edited by Fab; 16 Dec 2004 at 05:57. |
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15 Dec 2004, 21:24 (Ref:1180552)
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isn't it cool that the owner of the team still tests the car too?
also, call me blind, but what's different? I think the side panels are diff, and the little hump next to the roll bar is diff. Anything else? |
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15 Dec 2004, 21:31 (Ref:1180559)
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Bottom has the chamfered cross-section, they have the secondary rollover structure for both driver and passenger, and the wing is higher and further forward (and only 30cm deep instead of 40). Although you can't tell about the wing from the picture.
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16 Dec 2004, 05:49 (Ref:1180745)
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Thanks Garrett... huh, I posted the link here two days ago...
 And I'd appreciate you'd mention your source (same as mine) : Jérôme Mugnier's Virages... Note that the picture is owned by l'Équipe. Quote:
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16 Dec 2004, 08:31 (Ref:1180802)
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Hope it will be fast and reliable. It def looks good for a hybrid. What I was wondering now with the passenger space/safety etc. Will there be passenger laps just like in the two seat F1's? That would be sweeeeetttt
! It would be possible in the hybrid cars or am I wrong?
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16 Dec 2004, 09:31 (Ref:1180864)
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It was possible with the LMP 900, with Bourdais at the wheel. I cannot see why it wouldn't be possible with the LMP1
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16 Dec 2004, 11:17 (Ref:1180953)
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Never seen picture of people being a passenger in an Lmp. I would wish for the Dome with Jan at the wheel on the 24 hour track of course.. Sorry of going off topic I'm just dreaming..
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16 Dec 2004, 11:21 (Ref:1180956)
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The FIASCC ran some passenger rides in the Jota Pilbeam a couple of years ago and I remember DSC's Editor getting some fast laps alongside Kurt Luby in the Sintura way back too.
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16 Dec 2004, 11:57 (Ref:1180978)
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16 Dec 2004, 12:44 (Ref:1181010)
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16 Dec 2004, 13:13 (Ref:1181051)
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Great to see Pesca back behind the wheel...
As for the passenger laps, just isn't going to happen boys for 2 reasons: 1) A lot of engines are rented per kilometre now, so it's not the case that you can just use an old engine/old tyres and have a slide around with a sponsor on board economically, recall a decent prototype costs at least Euro3 per second to run... 2) With carbon brakes and no steering wheel to hold on to, I'm not sure any doctor/insurance company would consider the passenger seat to be a survivable environment for which they'd give us liability insurance. Even in the 2 seater F1 cars, there is usually something to hold onto... even as a driver, I wouldn't fancy the passenger seat... for someone not used to the forces, they'd come out bruised and battered and their arms would be flying around everywhere which wouldn't be particularly safe. Sorry to be the spoilsport. Rick |
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16 Dec 2004, 14:33 (Ref:1181114)
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Didn't Oreca propose that kind of incentives too ? I did some laps in a GT car (Porsche) on the Beltoise track 10 years ago, but it was obviously not a prototype... Last edited by Fab; 16 Dec 2004 at 14:34. |
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16 Dec 2004, 17:57 (Ref:1181247)
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Check : I just had a pm from Claude Foubert (Infocourse) who's positive (having pictures to prove it) on the fact that Bourdais did some laps on the Bugatti with passengers... including spins, says Claude ! Oops !
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16 Dec 2004, 18:32 (Ref:1181270)
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Bentley did that with their 2002 car didn't they...although that is a closed car...not at Le Mans of course...
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17 Dec 2004, 02:17 (Ref:1181540)
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Wasn't it a dedicated passenger car though, suggesting it might not be quite the same performance-wise as the race car?
I'm sure one of the Bentleys was built just for that purpose from what I read on hear a couple of months ago. |
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17 Dec 2004, 05:40 (Ref:1181594)
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The Bentley might have been converted a bit inside (moving the electronics), but the cockpit bubble wasn't any bigger and the passenger were quite squeezed in there... Bucknum ran its B2K/40 for his sponsors lately and the Courage two-seater was the 2000 C52 Peugeot...
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17 Dec 2004, 07:40 (Ref:1181623)
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Confirmed ! Claude sent me three pics : with the Courage C52 (Sebastien Bourdais at the wheel) and with the Courage Nissan (Courage Team) in 2003, on the Bugatti...
Lucky dogs ! Too bad that we're not allowed to post pics anymore... Ayse, an idea ? Thanks for the pics, Claude ! I owe you one ! 
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17 Dec 2004, 08:04 (Ref:1181632)
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I'm not jealouse... Really I'm not..
Would be great to see the picture's! |
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17 Dec 2004, 09:38 (Ref:1181701)
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17 Dec 2004, 09:43 (Ref:1181703)
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Yes but the picture on page 1 is from a website, as long as the picture is linked to a website its ok, but u cant upload pics onto ten-tenths anymore for a number of reasons, not least extra strain on the servers.
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17 Dec 2004, 10:10 (Ref:1181716)
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Nice.
The front looks quite odd with the square look (when looking from a birds eye view) and also the height above the ground, but that may be because it has just come down off the jacks or something. |
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