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24 Oct 2017, 16:29 (Ref:3776166) | #51 | |
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I’ll agree with you there. Barry must be turning in his grave. Very sad.
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Btw funny to see that FIA rules have been softened , as before drivers had to race F3 car for being eligible for Macau GP Anyway no need to say that Barry is missed by many ... |
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26 Oct 2017, 09:04 (Ref:3776548) | #53 | |
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While the Macau grid is low compared to recent years, won't this allow for better racing? Seems like large grids at narrow tracks like Macau, Pau, etc., always lead to trouble. No room to pass unless you force the issue.
And on the subject of the FIA, whatever happened to the FIA Middle East Cup that was suggested a few years ago? Last but not least, think Monaco will be back on the F3 schedule next year? |
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26 Oct 2017, 10:43 (Ref:3776565) | #54 | |
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But Macau is supposed to be where F3 drivers from all over the world compete. So it's hardly gonna be the same if there is only 22 on the grid. That said I would love to see F3 at Monaco again
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26 Oct 2017, 13:43 (Ref:3776604) | #55 | |
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What is more, we don't know whether Macau will join the new F3 championship or the regional series in 2019. Are there any development made by FIA for the outgoing F3 series in 2018.
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27 Oct 2017, 14:25 (Ref:3776787) | #56 | |
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Macau will likely remain a standalone event.
While there are significantly fewer teams in F3/GP3 at this point than when they started, limiting team entries to just 8 is a little strange. |
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Agreed. I think what the FIA want to do eventually is have a few (3?) World Cup events that would be open to the various regional F3 and F4 series where the top drivers can compete head to head. In a perfect world that would be Macau, Pau and perhaps an event in North America.
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28 Oct 2017, 13:48 (Ref:3777009) | #58 | ||
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Entries limited to 8 Teams make sense if you want to give value to the service teams will offer. Limited editions are always more expensive .
FIA also want to make sure that all teams will start and finish the season.... so merging the best (Well funded teams) of FIA F3 and GP3 is also making sense. Quote:
Macau GP always attracts (normally) rookies as it is the only way for rookies to learn the track (no other formula categorie run there, so no alternative to F3) The big problem at the moment is that FIA F3/GP3 will merge , F3 Regional will different Spec (probably similar to Euro Open Formula) and Japanese F3 will stick to FIA regulation beyond 2018... so hard to see clear at the moment in the junior formula ladder |
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The merger talks came about because of economic pressure and the realization that the market was saying no thanks to the current service. Not because someone wanted a higher margin for running a motorsport team. It is not some massive profit centre in a junior series like this one. |
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28 Oct 2017, 21:02 (Ref:3777079) | #60 | |
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It's really just GP3 claiming the F3 name, I presume eventually Japan and maybe some more countries will set up domestic series of their own based upon something like a super f4, F3 as we know it now will cease to exist
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3 Nov 2017, 11:18 (Ref:3778330) | #62 | ||
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An edition of Autosport a couple of weeks ago briefly suggested a TCR/IMSA/SRO GT concept to remedy the problem of diversity in F3, which I found interesting and could help boost grids possibly?
As I see it, it could be a single-make chassis (or perhaps use the LMP2 format in contracting 2 or 3 companies such as Tatuus and Dallara) which would allow manufacturers (such as existing VW, Merc etc) to come in with a production based engine, with a BOP applied to ensure that generally all drivers are competitive. Due to BOP, this would stop situations such as Prema's dominance in F3 and ART's dominance in GP3 as theoretically there would not be as significant an advantage in a larger budget as your car would be balanced to match the speeds of your competitors regardless. Equally, it could help raise prestige of junior single seaters due to the OEM-presence. Understandably, BOP-formulas are not as savoury an idea as an all out development war, but those days seem very much historic now if you given the inflation of expenses compared to even a decade ago, the reducing commercial interest in non-electric and the ongoing state of the economy. |
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3 Nov 2017, 13:48 (Ref:3778355) | #63 | ||
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F3 Regional is supposed to fit that bill. Look at the car being used in F3 Americas. It is a "super F4."
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is it the same car they use in usf2000 and british f3?
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4 Nov 2017, 19:15 (Ref:3778583) | #65 | ||
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The three FIA Formula 4 chassis are Tatuus (Italian and German championships), Mygale (British, Australian and NACAM championships) and Dome (Japanese championships).
The Formula 3 Americas car is a Ligier Crawford JS F3, developed by Crawford in North Carolina. The BRDC British Formula 3 uses the Tatuus MSV F4-016. |
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9 Nov 2017, 11:23 (Ref:3779593) | #66 | |
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An article from Motorsport.com said that many graduates from F4 or other junior single seater series are looking opportunities into Formula 3, still have the hope even it may the final season of the "real" Formula 3 series
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17 Dec 2017, 16:22 (Ref:3787686) | #67 | |
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Hope FIA will allow more than 24 full-season entries for the new F3 championship in 2019, and hope Macau can served as a round of the championship
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Hope FIA F3 gets more than 18 full-season entries
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26 Feb 2018, 11:29 (Ref:3804012) | #70 | |
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So currently European F3 has 21 confirmed entries, with GP3 having 18 confirmed entries. Clearly the merger is not needed yet, and would only harm that step on the ladder by condensing potential opportunities...
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26 Feb 2018, 14:10 (Ref:3804048) | #71 | |
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Do not forget that there is still the Regional F3 in the pipe .... so there will still be plenty of drives available for potential drivers
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26 Feb 2018, 16:36 (Ref:3804091) | #72 | |
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I feel if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Personally I’d rather see multi make European F3 stay than single make GP3, which I never feel was necessary in the first place
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26 Feb 2018, 16:53 (Ref:3804097) | #73 | ||
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27 Feb 2018, 01:12 (Ref:3804172) | #74 | ||
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F4 to GP3 is a ridiculously huge step. F3 must not die.
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