[BTCC] BTCC 2018 Rumours & Silly Season

[RS67]

Originally Posted by btccbloke

Also the 3rd car may just be for testing remember haha

So why bother to put a livery on it.
DB has already said there is a driver to be announced.

[btccbloke]

Originally Posted by RS67

So why bother to put a livery on it.
DB has already said there is a driver to be announced.

Oh RS67 I don't know what your problem is but you seem to really want to pick comments out of context for the sake of argument about your beloved motorbase.
I would suggest maybe read a whole selection of comments before replying, you will then see I have said throughout they have 3 cars and 3 TBL, my comment here is a callback the page or so before when someone was rattling on about Jackson being replaced for testing only. And fits with other comments within that section which also reference the doubts to this third TBL.

....and it is sad that I have had to bore everyone else explaining this to you

[Craner Curves]

Eurotech back to Honda power this year. I'm surprised more teams don't switch from the Swindon. It's OK for a midfielder to tailender team, but it doesn't have the cutting edge.

[thetool]

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[BLiTZ]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Eurotech back to Honda power this year. I'm surprised more teams don't switch from the Swindon. It's OK for a midfielder to tailender team, but it doesn't have the cutting edge.

New ones from NBE or TD's from last year? I imagine Honda would want new engines for the new car and with Norlin presumably re-using their Swindon units from last year there must be a couple of unit's kicking about, plus Simpson's car would come to Eurotech already sporting the K20 so would make sense for all the cars to run the same (wonder what other 'works' changes Simpson's car has following a year at TD and can be applied by Eurotech?!).

[RS67]

Originally Posted by btccbloke

....and it is sad that I am a bore

Get over yourself. Some of your posts are so random, it makes them hard to follow. It may make sense in your pea brain when you write it but to read.
I suggest your go back to bed and try getting up on the right side this time and try not too have too many shandy's the night before.

[AdrianM]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Eurotech back to Honda power this year. I'm surprised more teams don't switch from the Swindon. It's OK for a midfielder to tailender team, but it doesn't have the cutting edge.

Doesn't Ingrams Toyota run the Swindon engine?

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by RS67

So why bother to put a livery on it.
DB has already said there is a driver to be announced.

I don't think they'll have put a livery on it for testing - didn't they have two cars decked in Shredded Wheat Livery all the way back on the 11th January?



The one nearest the camera in the shot from Oly is simply the ex-Jackson car with his name/number removed.

[RS67]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Eurotech back to Honda power this year. I'm surprised more teams don't switch from the Swindon. It's OK for a midfielder to tailender team, but it doesn't have the cutting edge.

The Toca unit in the Eurotech cars did very well last year. Certainly outperformed the Honda engines in some races.

[RS67]

Originally Posted by BLiTZ

New ones from NBE or TD's from last year? I imagine Honda would want new engines for the new car and with Norlin presumably re-using their Swindon units from last year there must be a couple of unit's kicking about, plus Simpson's car would come to Eurotech already sporting the K20 so would make sense for all the cars to run the same (wonder what other 'works' changes Simpson's car has following a year at TD and can be applied by Eurotech?!).

Would Simpson have bought the engine from Dynamics/NB or just rented it though. It would make more sense financially just to have rented it.

Also the car may well have some changes after they had to build up a new car for him.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by BLiTZ

New ones from NBE or TD's from last year? I imagine Honda would want new engines for the new car and with Norlin presumably re-using their Swindon units from last year there must be a couple of unit's kicking about, plus Simpson's car would come to Eurotech already sporting the K20 so would make sense for all the cars to run the same (wonder what other 'works' changes Simpson's car has following a year at TD and can be applied by Eurotech?!).

The article refers to the testing of three new units. How much life does an NGTC engine have anyway? Each car can have two engines per season - so I would expect there useable life is only about 25-30 races.

[btccbloke]

Originally Posted by RS67

Get over yourself. Some of your posts are so random, it makes them hard to follow. It may make sense in your pea brain when you write it but to read.
I suggest your go back to bed and try getting up on the right side this time and try not too have too many shandy's the night before.

As a hint putting "haha" generally makes it an unserious comment.
If your finding it hard to follow maybe slow down and don't jump to conclusions. That's the last I'm saying on it

[RS67]

Originally Posted by btccbloke

As a hint putting "haha" generally makes it an unserious comment.
If your finding it hard to follow maybe slow down and don't jump to conclusions. That's the last I'm saying on it

Haha is a hidden wall with a ditch, designed to keep livestock out of a garden.
Perhaps you ought to slow down and actually think before you type. Reread a few times before hitting submit.

[RS67]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The article refers to the testing of three new units. How much life does an NGTC engine have anyway? Each car can have two engines per season - so I would expect there useable life is only about 25-30 races.

One engine should last all season. There is a points deduction for engine changes during the season.

[BobJones]

Guys and Girls, the majority of posts on 165 are ironic. Looks like this went over a couple of forum members heads. Cool it down, have a laugh.

"Commercially the deal works well for both parties." My interpretation of that is Eurotech has some of the Honda funds now — well done.

"This change also enables us to work with world-class lubricant manufacturer Ravenol" — Another new sponsor/partner for the team too, also well done.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by RS67

One engine should last all season. There is a points deduction for engine changes during the season.

I guess TOCA haven't updated the 2018 regulations yet?

'1.16.2 Each registered entrant is permitted to use a maximum of two engines per registered car during the course of the Championship.'

The use of a third engine will result in a penalty, not for the second.

So - the engines will be designed to last about one season in length, why would you risk carrying over an engine into a second season - especially if you are changing engine type with the other cars?

[RS67]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

I guess TOCA haven't updated the 2018 regulations yet?

'1.16.2 Each registered entrant is permitted to use a maximum of two engines per registered car during the course of the Championship.'

The use of a third engine will result in a penalty, not for the second.

So - the engines will be designed to last about one season in length, why would you risk carrying over an engine into a second season - especially if you are changing engine type with the other cars?

Didn't realise 2 engines were allowed. I thought the original ngtc remit was for an engine to last a full season to reduce costs. That's why they retained the 2.0 capacity as opposed to the 1.6 FIA engines.
There is no reason engines can't be rebuilt once a season has finished ready for the next.

[Dudley]

So, sanity check me, is this the current understood situation.

28 driver and car combinations announced.

4 left, which consists of

1 BMR Subaru
1 Motorbase Ford
2 AmD MGs

And that's our grid?

Which means missing from last year is

1 BMR Academy Subaru
1 Maximum Motorsport Ford

The TBLs of which have expanded Cicerley and HARD?

[Robin Marriott]

TOCA engines all go back to Swindon at the end of the season as far as I know.

[BobJones]

Originally Posted by Dudley

The TBLs of which have expanded Cicerley and HARD?

Kind of. The TBL HARD are using is from the Welch estate, previously used on loan to Motorbase for 2017.

Motorbase are using the ex-BMR TBL for 2018.

[BobJones]

Love how low the Alfa looks, and how close to the middle Rob is sat.

[850Estate]

The car looks smashing - but I'm really not a fan of that livery. The logos up the side look all mismatched.

[mickb]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Smart move using the older spec engine as well. Probably cheaper than the latest spec unit, and won't get hit with the same boost adjustments.

Could be wrong but I'am sure the new BMW engine is lighter than the old one- effectively reducing the COG, one of the main reasons the Subaru works so well. Still a good move for 1 car team wanting to feature in the point though...IMO

[Sodemo]

When do we get to see the new Honda?

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

When do we get to see the new Honda?

Sometime after they finish building it... still not done I hear!

Flash's departure looks like an inspired decision!