Lada WTCC - Page 10

Aslak Vind · 31 Aug 2008, 22:39 (Ref:2279042)

I thought we were in it for the racing..??

Sorry if I got that part wrong, normally I leave the looks to the girls..

Bramzel · 31 Aug 2008, 22:44 (Ref:2279045)

Some of us prefer racecars not just to be fast, but also good looking. If you have a different opinion, fine with me, please allow me to have my own as well.

mattt · 31 Aug 2008, 22:45 (Ref:2279046)

if they go for the older looking car (more boxy one), they'll get even more dispensations so then they'll get further up the grid

Valker · 1 Sep 2008, 06:52 (Ref:2279154)

The current Lada WTCC car isn't in production any more so I think Russian Bears must change the car if they want to get some support from the factory. Priora (facelifted 110) is the current production model unlike the other car (Siluet/Project C/2116) which is about to enter production in 2010...

The problem, how ever, isn't the ugliness of Priora, but engine. There isn't a 2-litre version of it is unlikely we'll see an Opel-powered Priora, because Renault now owns a part of VAZ. New 2116 is supposed to have a 2 litre Renault engine, but it won't be ready any time soon.

Valenok · 1 Sep 2008, 08:20 (Ref:2279192)

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Originally Posted by Valker

The problem, how ever, isn't the ugliness of Priora, but engine. There isn't a 2-litre version of it is unlikely we'll see an Opel-powered Priora, because Renault now owns a part of VAZ. New 2116 is supposed to have a 2 litre Renault engine, but it won't be ready any time soon.

It's hard to believe - 2l modern engine rise car cost though VAZ policy includes only cheap car

As for this car look like Nissan Thiida

Usual way...

Yannis · 1 Sep 2008, 10:43 (Ref:2279294)

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Originally Posted by Valker

The problem, how ever, isn't the ugliness of Priora, but engine. There isn't a 2-litre version of it is unlikely we'll see an Opel-powered Priora, because Renault now owns a part of VAZ. New 2116 is supposed to have a 2 litre Renault engine, but it won't be ready any time soon.

Actually this is the issue to be discussed...

MikeD · 1 Sep 2008, 11:22 (Ref:2279322)

Was something wrong with my hearing or did Martin Haven say that Lada is planning two teams next year? A works team competing with BMW, Seat, Chevrolet and Honda ... and a team competing in the independants cup.

Bramzel · 1 Sep 2008, 11:24 (Ref:2279326)

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Originally Posted by MikeD

Was something wrong with my hearing or did Martin Haven say that Lada is planning two teams next year? A works team competing with BMW, Seat, Chevrolet and Honda ... and a team competing in the independants cup.

That would be very cool actually

People may laugh about Lada, but I think its a good thing that a World Championship also has world brands in it. Would be nice if Brilliance would make it into the championship after all

Yannis · 1 Sep 2008, 21:25 (Ref:2279739)

The 2007 Lada Project C was developed in cooperation with Magna-Steyr (the 3-door Lada C-Concept was also developed during this cooperation). Both are supposed to have a 2litre engine.

In 1996, when the Lada 110 2.0 16V (21106) was unveiled (see also http://lamda-motorsport.blogspot.com...0-20-wtcc.html), AvtoVAZ was very close to GM (later they introduced the jv GM-AvtoVAZ).

Now after the Renault acquisition of the 25% of AvtoVAZ the things have changed and maybe we should expect a 2-litre Priora "powered by Renault", so there will be no problem with an S2000 homologation.

Another possible solution could be the VAZ-21203 2.0 16V engine designed and produced by AvtoVAZ:

**FIRE** · 2 Sep 2008, 18:16 (Ref:2280246)

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Originally Posted by Yannis

Obviously the first car seems and is better (2007 Lada Project C or Lada 2116) but it's still a prototype. The Lada Priora is already in production and actually it's based on the Lada 110.

According the Petrolhead article the car will be launced this year in Russia and in Europe by 2010.

Why not using the current car next year and develop a S2000 car on the new LADA 2116 for 2010?

stedevil · 3 Sep 2008, 20:58 (Ref:2281168)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Guys, who cares what you think of the looks of it?

Personally I dont care very much, but TC are to a big part also marketing for a brand. A car that both looks good and wins races is easier to sell then one that lacks one or both of these

Yannis · 3 Sep 2008, 21:07 (Ref:2281174)

To be honest, i'd prefer to see a Lada 2116 WTCC instead of a Lada Priora WTCC...

helgi · 8 Sep 2008, 19:56 (Ref:2285004)

As Lotti confirmed there will be Russian event in 2010. Three places are discussed:Moscow,Saint-Petersburg,Togliatti(if I write right). The last one is Lada-city.
In all cases it is going to be held in the city. So,it would be a street course,as none of that cities has a race track..So,Lotti leaves some space for the maneuvers if there won't be any Lada factory team in 2010.

Valenok · 9 Sep 2008, 07:35 (Ref:2285325)

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Originally Posted by helgi

In all cases it is going to be held in the city. So,it would be a street course,as none of that cities has a race track..So,Lotti leaves some space for the maneuvers if there won't be any Lada factory team in 2010.

Moscow would be happy to add problems with race organization to their city traffic

Why they don't want to use their new Domodedovo track?

**Dani Filth** · 9 Sep 2008, 10:44 (Ref:2285445)

same question was brought up for Bucharest FIA GT event . but at least in our case . there was no circuit to use
i guess a city circuit is easier to "sell" to non motorsport fans

JMeissner · 9 Sep 2008, 11:39 (Ref:2285493)

Interview with Jaap van Lagen:

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=2674

Yannis · 9 Sep 2008, 21:15 (Ref:2286029)

Lada 110 2.0 WTCC highlights

Lam Pak · 10 Sep 2008, 03:52 (Ref:2286207)

i want to see lada in macau. the car is so handsome. the many many russian girls livin and workin here will give them a massive support.

Valenok · 10 Sep 2008, 06:22 (Ref:2286244)

I've heard, new factory Lada car will be based on Priora model. Little difference.
And also Lotti said in Moscow that he hope to use Domodedovo track, but he isn't sure that track will be ready in time

**FIRE** · 10 Sep 2008, 09:04 (Ref:2286307)

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The Russan Bears Motorsport will introduce a third Lada 110 for the remaining races of the World Touring Car Championship. The 30-year old Russian Kirill Ladygin will be behind the wheel of the car.
...
The team has also announced that they will develop the new Priora-model to race in the WTCC 2009. It is not announced yet who will drive the new car next year and if Lada will back the team officially.
...

Source: http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=2678

JMeissner · 10 Sep 2008, 09:47 (Ref:2286341)

Lada works entry 2009 confirmed and a race in Russia 2010:

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=2679

**FIRE** · 10 Sep 2008, 10:37 (Ref:2286369)

Great news. I hope Jaap van Lagen will be one of the drivers.

Aslak Vind · 12 Sep 2008, 01:47 (Ref:2287676)

They will still be the laughing stock of the grid, I am not sure what they will achieve?

rich07 · 12 Sep 2008, 05:03 (Ref:2287741)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

They will still be the laughing stock of the grid, I am not sure what they will achieve?

They've already achieved-the cars are out there and racing, it was a bit of a wait and they're not front runners but none the less good on them for having a go. Plus it's entertaining seeing a Lada racing against BMW, Seat etc.

Matt · 12 Sep 2008, 05:06 (Ref:2287743)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

They will still be the laughing stock of the grid, I am not sure what they will achieve?

Since when have they been the laughingstock of the grid?

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