Top 20 Greatest F1 drivers

[Armco Bender]

Surprised Ben Hur didn't make the list too..
17 times All Roman Empire World Champion
8 times winner of the Tiberus 24 Hour Chariot Race
6 times winner of the Acropolis 500.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Armco Bender

Surprised Ben Hur didn't make the list too..
17 times All Roman Empire World Champion
8 times winner of the Tiberus 24 Hour Chariot Race
6 times winner of the Acropolis 500.

Yes, considering he was using a four horsepower chariot without the spikes in the wheel hubs; it's the spikes that make the difference. .

[nicanary]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Yes, considering he was using a four horsepower chariot without the spikes in the wheel hubs; it's the spikes that make the difference. .

The chariot maker was working on a new spike/hub aero package for each race. Constantly fiddling with the variables for that unfair advantage.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Yes, considering he was using a four horsepower chariot without the spikes in the wheel hubs; it's the spikes that make the difference. .

Yes the spikes would mean pitstops every lap for new wheels, How do you make your tyre allocation last?

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

Yes the spikes would mean pitstops every lap for new wheels, How do you make your tyre allocation last?

Very good point, not to mention shoe allocation for the horses.

[Bononi]

That puts Ben Hur in the top ten, problem is... that wasn't called "Formula One" at the time.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Bononi

That puts Ben Hur in the top ten, problem is... that wasn't called "Formula One" at the time.

But it was the equivalent, well almost as they raced on ovals, .

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Not that what Schumacher and company did wasn't impressive. But it was backed by a limitless budget, so hardly mission impossible once Todt was at the helm.

Toyota had a huge budget for years and didn't win a race. Sometimes moeny can't buy talent.

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by Marbot

The Japanese are just too conservative when it comes to making big decisions. Where are they now in F1 racing?

Or WRC? They saw the economic crisis and retired much earlier than other wealthy entries to prevent wasting money. Terrible news for us, of course, but smart from a business point of view.

[NaBUru38]

To compare drivers from different eras objectively, I can use only two statistics: wins / podiums, and best season standings.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Marbot

No way. A Japanese board of directors would still now be deciding if it would be a good idea to let the team use their Suzuka circuit for testing (assuming Honda was to be the chosen manufacturer).

Marbot nailed the Japanese problems in F1 with the above.

Wverything is subject ot a board decision and their teams simply cannot move fast enough to cover off the small and nimble constructors.
Pure spending wars perfecting known technology, they cannot be beaten at.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

To compare drivers from different eras objectively, I can use only two statistics: wins / podiums, and best season standings.

Not just limited to statistics though. In the season's that we've seen and from older footage that we perhaps were not fortunate enough to see at the time, we can also compare how drivers went against teammates or rivals of a given time and work things out from that as well.

For example Gilles in cars that were slower than many of his rivals, was often able to compete well against them yet only won 6 GP's!

Ayrton didn't have the best car for several years yet often beat rivals in better cars, let alone his teammates who stood no chance except Prost.

Then we have Schumacher who never had a competitive teammate and only ocassionally had inferior cars, namely the early Benetton's, and the early Ferrari's

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Not just limited to statistics though. In the season's that we've seen and from older footage that we perhaps were not fortunate enough to see at the time, we can also compare how drivers went against teammates or rivals of a given time and work things out from that as well.

I said that I use statistics to compare objectively. Driving style, setup skills and strategies must be compared subjectively.

[deeks6]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Yes, considering he was using a four horsepower chariot without the spikes in the wheel hubs; it's the spikes that make the difference. .

No .. the double diffuser tail .. ejects surplus poo quicker

[nicanary]

Originally Posted by deeks6

No .. the double diffuser tail .. ejects surplus poo quicker

That could cause problems at the post-race weigh-in ; best do it "Tyrrell-style" and have water ballast in the horses' bladders.

[Aysedasi]

What was this thread about - horse poo?

[Armco Bender]

What was this thread about - horse poo?

Pretty much the first 30 pages were...

[Aysedasi]

It was always gonna be, I guess..... Depending on your view of the poo......

[wolfhound]

Was it not bull poo?

[Bononi]

Nothing more to say....

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