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Old 13 May 2017, 13:34 (Ref:3733208)   #26
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Alonso. Wow. Just absolutely out of this world.
Absolutely!

He can be as grumpy as he likes when he can pull laps out of his posterior like that.

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Old 13 May 2017, 13:47 (Ref:3733218)   #27
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Alonso. Wow. Just absolutely out of this world.
That gives some idea of the potential. No wonder Alonso's been so frustrated.
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Old 13 May 2017, 13:59 (Ref:3733224)   #28
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If Bottas or Ricciardo can win tomorrow, it'll be 11 different winners in 11 years!

2007 – Felipe Massa
2008 – Kimi Raikkonen
2009 – Jenson Button
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Old 13 May 2017, 14:35 (Ref:3733228)   #29
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It's never been that great a circuit to race on. I think the most memorable races are :-

1991 : The first race held there. Senna and Mansell going wheel-to-wheel down the main straight with spark flying everywhere. Who would break last into the first corner? I doubt that sort of thing would happen with the modern day aero on the cars.

1992 : Held in the wet. A rare mistake from Senna in the wet - and he went off the track and didn't finish. Schumi looked superb and was managing to catch Mansell, but Mansell started going faster. A superb finish from Jean Alesi in third as well.

1994 : Schumi driving to a superb second with his car stuck in fifth gear for most of the race.

1996 : A superb win from Schumi. One of the his best races. In the wet and in the underpowered Ferrari - he took on both Williams and pulled out a massive lead to finish first, and took his first win for Ferrari.

It's a shame that the chicane was put in before the last corner - as before that, it was one of the best corners in F1. Only decent thing about the track - in my opinion.
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Old 13 May 2017, 16:38 (Ref:3733248)   #30
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Never doubt a motivated Spaniard! Well done Fernando! Hope he can pull off some points, now.
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Old 13 May 2017, 16:46 (Ref:3733249)   #31
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It's never been that great a circuit to race on. I think the most memorable races are :-

1991 : The first race held there. Senna and Mansell going wheel-to-wheel down the main straight with spark flying everywhere. Who would break last into the first corner? I doubt that sort of thing would happen with the modern day aero on the cars.

1992 : Held in the wet. A rare mistake from Senna in the wet - and he went off the track and didn't finish. Schumi looked superb and was managing to catch Mansell, but Mansell started going faster. A superb finish from Jean Alesi in third as well.

1994 : Schumi driving to a superb second with his car stuck in fifth gear for most of the race.

1996 : A superb win from Schumi. One of the his best races. In the wet and in the underpowered Ferrari - he took on both Williams and pulled out a massive lead to finish first, and took his first win for Ferrari.

It's a shame that the chicane was put in before the last corner - as before that, it was one of the best corners in F1. Only decent thing about the track - in my opinion.
Agreed - the new final complex is crap and hasn't helped the racing.

Was there not a year Hakkinen broke down on the final lap whilst winning? I kinda remember that. And Pastor winning and the Williams garage catching fire.
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Old 13 May 2017, 17:41 (Ref:3733259)   #32
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Can I vote for Alonso for DotR now?
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Old 13 May 2017, 22:13 (Ref:3733292)   #33
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Old 14 May 2017, 00:37 (Ref:3733309)   #34
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Vettel's on the brink of grid penalties.
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Old 14 May 2017, 06:41 (Ref:3733330)   #35
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Old 14 May 2017, 10:16 (Ref:3733347)   #36
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It appears there is going to be some unusual strategy in the Spanish GP as the medium tyre is 2 seconds slowed than the soft with the soft capable of 25 laps out of 66.
I can see some of those at the back running the medium for a few laps at the start. Those at the front going at least two stints on the soft to begin with the hope of a small number of laps on the medium to finish. If there is a potentially long safety car period then you could change to mediums for the safety car period and change back to soft before the safety car comes back in.

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Old 14 May 2017, 10:23 (Ref:3733348)   #37
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10 place grid penalty for Vandoorne. Taking on new power unit elements.


BTW, anyone notice P2 is getting a better start than P1 in the supports?
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Old 14 May 2017, 11:15 (Ref:3733357)   #38
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At least it's not Fred taking a 10 place grid penalty, how heartbreaking would that be to put in all that effort and have it thrown away. I can't help but admire him, how he got that slowmobile into the top ten, is beyond me
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Old 14 May 2017, 12:07 (Ref:3733375)   #39
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Initially a clean start as Vettel got the better of Hamilton but fairly messy going in to Turn 1. Raikkonen breaks his left front suspension and Massa gets a puncture.
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Old 14 May 2017, 12:31 (Ref:3733379)   #40
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The Bottas vs. Vettel battle was superb.
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The Bottas vs. Vettel battle was superb.
Be interesting to see the chitty chat on the podium if they hold.
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That was a strange move by Vandoorne. The VSC is out.
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That was cutting it fine by Ferrari. Was Lewis forced off?
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Best off track moment of the race ... Getting that little kid out of the grandstand and into Ferrari hospitality too meet Kimi.

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Seriously Ferrari, you have the mediums to put on so it's a long final stint, due in within the next few laps, you gain 7-8 seconds if you pit under VSC, and yet Ferrari wait until the lap AFTER the VSC to pit?!

That's what cost them the race. Ferrari strategists are really poor. They're lucky to have got away with the first pit stops when they got tricked into pitting far too early.

Overall though I think without the VSC Vettel had this race won. He was pulling away, gap probably would have been 10+ by the time he pitted, which would have been earlier thus would have pulled out further on fresh meds with Hamilton on old softs.
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What's the rules on Vettel overtaking the Haas under the Waved Yellows seen on the light board for Bottas's car. It did look like the Haas had slowed and moved aside to let Vettel pass.

Hamilton one turn later pulled level with the Haas where the marshals were working ( no danger to the marshals) then pulled clear once past them and Bottas's car and presumably at a green flag/light board.

Race control didn't appear to notice at all.
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Congrats to Lewis. Mercedes got the better of Ferrari with their strategy. It might have been quite different without the VSC but that doesn't take anything away from Lewis.
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Vettel and Hamilton both gracious on the podium.
So much different than last year with Nico.

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