2018 VASC Silly Season (with POLL) - Page 36

peckstar · 11 Sep 2017, 12:08 (Ref:3766035)

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Originally Posted by mceci1

And what is that concept of the Kelly Crate Umai Naa, you haven't actually explained it too us, just that the head of Nissan is doing something

The Kelly Crate was a car run pre COTF that the was the 4th Kelly car, it was usually older and lower tech and run for a pay driver. Was good enough to circulate but was rarely at the pointy end as the other 3 cars were.

Simona is running an older car, of unknown Tech, but while she is not a pay driver, she does have the gig because of the finances that come with her being female and thus is technically the same as a pay driver

T-star · 11 Sep 2017, 12:10 (Ref:3766036)

Mceci

Again you have missed the point.

He's not talking about the head of Nissan. He's talking about the bloke who did the commercial deal for Supergirls/Renee/Simona

The Kelly Krate has been much discussed. The theory goes that the Kelly's have always struggled to field 4 competitive cars...the 4th car has always been lacking.

Keep up.

mceci1 · 11 Sep 2017, 12:10 (Ref:3766037)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peckstar

The Kelly Crate was a car run pre COTF that the was the 4th Kelly car, it was usually older and lower tech and run for a pay driver. Was good enough to circulate buy was never at the pointy end as the other 3 cars were.

Simona is running an older car, of unknown Tech, but while she is not a pay driver, she does have the gig because of the finances that come with her being female and thus is technically the same as a pay driver

Ok, that explains it, sort of like PRA's 4th car, less attention on it compared to the other 3

peckstar · 11 Sep 2017, 12:11 (Ref:3766038)

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Originally Posted by mceci1

Ok, that explains it, sort of like PRA's 4th car, less attention on it compared to the other 3

correct. it helps to fund the other 3

mceci1 · 11 Sep 2017, 12:35 (Ref:3766044)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

correct. it helps to fund the other 3

Ok, shame that happens, but when you have two or possibly 3 cars battling for top 5s/10s and wins it makes logical sense to put more effort into those cars

mceci1 · 11 Sep 2017, 12:39 (Ref:3766046)

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Originally Posted by T-star

Mceci

Again you have missed the point.

He's not talking about the head of Nissan. He's talking about the bloke who did the commercial deal for Supergirls/Renee/Simona

The Kelly Krate has been much discussed. The theory goes that the Kelly's have always struggled to field 4 competitive cars...the 4th car has always been lacking.

Keep up.

Thanks to Peckstar, who explained the Kelly Crate I know now how Kelly works, in a similar way to PRA. As for the manager of Gracie and Simona, from my point of view the sentence was hard to understand. https://prnt.sc/gjs2ja

Quote "The Bloke at the head of it all...".

That can be a range of people, ranging from Rick and Todd to Emery

champcarman · 13 Sep 2017, 23:35 (Ref:3766675)

Wouldn't say the 4th car at PRA gets any less attention than the other 3 but obviously if any new development parts come along that may be in short supply they naturally go on the cars most in contention from a Championship standing point of view.

Just Do It! · 13 Sep 2017, 23:50 (Ref:3766677)

Suggestions that Renee Gracie may've split with her management group?

peckstar · 13 Sep 2017, 23:51 (Ref:3766678)

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Originally Posted by Just Do It!

Suggestions that Renee Gracie may've split with her management group?

being discussed in the dunlop thread

Umai Naa · 13 Sep 2017, 23:51 (Ref:3766679)

Covered off in the Super2 thread.

Just Do It! · 13 Sep 2017, 23:53 (Ref:3766680)

Sorry, I'll retreat to my bunker

peckstar · 14 Sep 2017, 03:03 (Ref:3766691)

AA suggetsing LDM will switch to fords in 2018

new management structure and or co-owner

champcarman · 14 Sep 2017, 03:17 (Ref:3766692)

Yeh I believe that is true pecky.

**GTRMagic** · 14 Sep 2017, 03:24 (Ref:3766693)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

AA suggetsing LDM will switch to fords in 2018

new management structure and or co-owner

Story Here

Wasn't the primary difficulty of this squad the sourcing of commercial partners?
It will be interesting to see how a brand switch might fix that

Umai Naa · 14 Sep 2017, 03:37 (Ref:3766695)

Will Mr Dumbrell still get commercial assistance from former HMS staffers going forward?

mceci1 · 14 Sep 2017, 05:06 (Ref:3766703)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

AA suggetsing LDM will switch to fords in 2018

new management structure and or co-owner

Couldn't hurt, and the bashing on LDM lately is going high, so why not change to Ford, but it does show one thing, LDM aren't as financially disadvantaged as we think, unless a Ford team is helping at a drastically reduced price or the new co owner is doing a lot

**GTRMagic** · 14 Sep 2017, 05:19 (Ref:3766711)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Will Mr Dumbrell still get commercial assistance from former HMS staffers going forward?

Larko did a segment on RPM about liveries & sponsorship Here talking about needing $3.5m a season to run a single car.

Judging by a dearth of corporate support here, there is a LOT of work to do to get to those kinds of numbers....

peckstar · 14 Sep 2017, 07:26 (Ref:3766740)

LDM plots Ford switch for 2018

bit more detail.

Will be good for the ford fans to have a bit more choice

mceci1 · 14 Sep 2017, 07:28 (Ref:3766741)

What's LDM got to lose, can't be any worse then the Holden

Razor · 14 Sep 2017, 07:50 (Ref:3766743)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

LDM plots Ford switch for 2018

bit more detail.

Will be good for the ford fans to have a bit more choice

Interesting to read this as Lucas' brother co-owns the factory Holden team which provides LDM's cars and parts.

Umai Naa · 14 Sep 2017, 08:03 (Ref:3766745)

LDM don't buy much from Triple Eight.

Different engines, different shocks, cars are still in 2013 spec for the most part.

**GTRMagic** · 14 Sep 2017, 08:31 (Ref:3766752)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

LDM plots Ford switch for 2018

bit more detail.

Will be good for the ford fans to have a bit more choice

More Here

With quotes attributed to the team owner as well...

Seems an expensive proposition to switch to a Falcon V8 if it is set to be replaced in 2019 by a Mondeo body shape.

There was another mob looking to change to FPR Falcons some time ago... they didn't pursue their interest...

mceci1 · 14 Sep 2017, 08:36 (Ref:3766753)

Fusion is the logical choice for a Ford team, similar shape to the FGX makes aero easier to deal with, compared to a Mustang, which is a complete restart. A four door looks better too in my opinion, I only like the old 2 door falcons, cant be done and look as good as the old ones on a new car

peckstar · 14 Sep 2017, 08:53 (Ref:3766755)

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Originally Posted by mceci1

Fusion is the logical choice for a Ford team, similar shape to the FGX makes aero easier to deal with, compared to a Mustang, which is a complete restart. A four door looks better too in my opinion, I only like the old 2 door falcons, cant be done and look as good as the old ones on a new car

Fusion? whats that?

PS i know what it is, but currently has no relevance to australia and from what we hear, It wont

Umai Naa · 14 Sep 2017, 09:06 (Ref:3766758)

Fusion is a Mondeo.

View Poll Results: Which driver is going to win the VASC Driver’s Championship In 2018?
#1 Jamie Whincup RBHRT Holden	6	14.63%
#2 Scott Pye WAU Holden	1	2.44%
#5 Mark Winterbottom Tickford Ford	0	0%
#6 Cameron Waters Tickford Ford	1	2.44%
#7 Andre Heimgartner NisMoAu Nissan	0	0%
#8 Nick Percat BJR Holden	0	0%
#9 David Reynolds Erebus Holden	1	2.44%
#12 Fabian Coulthard DJRTP Ford	1	2.44%
#14 Tim Slade BJR Holden	0	0%
#15 Rick Kelly NisMoAu Nissan	0	0%
#17 Scott McLaughlin DJRTP Ford	22	53.66%
#18 Lee Holdsworth Team18 Holden	0	0%
#19 Jack Le Brocq Tekno Holden	0	0%
#21 Tim Blanchard TBR Holden	0	0%
#23 Michael Caruso NisMoAu Nissan	0	0%
#25 James Courtney WAU Holden	1	2.44%
#33 Garth Tander GRM Holden	0	0%
#34 James Golding GRM Holden	0	0%
#35 Todd Hazelwood MSR Ford	0	0%
#55 Chaz Mostert Tickford Ford	4	9.76%
#56 Richie Stanaway Tickford Ford	1	2.44%
#78 Simona de Silvestro NisMoAu Nissan	0	0%
#97 Shane van Gisbergen RBHRT Holden	2	4.88%
#99 Anton de Pasquale Erebus Holden	1	2.44%
#230 Will Davison 23RED Ford	0	0%
#888 Craig Lowndes ALR Holden	0	0%
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