The Erebus Way.... (merged)

[Umai Naa]

Also allegedly threw the AusGT championship a few years back, hence the tension.

[GTRMagic]

Erebus To Holden

[Reload]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Also allegedly threw the AusGT championship a few years back, hence the tension.

Getting off topic, but first I've heard of that nasty little rumour ??

[GTRMagic]

Speedcafe's Erebus To Holden Article

There is no mention of support from Holden at all..

The release is slightly wonky too.. kinda suggesting that Holden wins so if I buy a Holden, any Holden, Erebus will win too

[rich07]

Originally Posted by Reload

Getting off topic, but first I've heard of that nasty little rumour ??

Yeah me too. I just thought he dropped the ball, fair enough but this is the first time I've heard these allegations?

[Mixer]

I definitely heard mutterings of an alleged drug test anomaly regarding stimulants around the time of the split.

[gravin]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Erebus To Holden

That's sad - another Holden team.

- so unfortunately I'll jump ship at this point and it's GRM for me this year.

Looking forward to Moff in the Volvo.

[Umai Naa]

Originally Posted by Mixer

I definitely heard mutterings of an alleged drug test anomaly regarding stimulants around the time of the split.

That's the thing, though.

The mutterings, of varying substance, were coming out of Erebus.

[Matt]

rip benzos

[Chappelli]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The release is slightly wonky too.. kinda suggesting that Holden wins so if I buy a Holden, any Holden, Erebus will win too

To be somewhat expected though, the rationale behind the Benz switch was something like "we always had a Benz as a family car"..... Erebus has never been a team that front footed their issues, they've often come forward with excuses and reasoning that in many cases made no sense... this is just another.

How and when the Dragon interest in car #4 is weaved into the story will be interesting...

[Axeman444]

Got to love the PR spin:
"Since then, the VF Commodore has proven to be the car of choice and I see the change to Holden as a positive for Erebus Motorsport."

Yeah right, if you are talking about a T8E chassis, you are up there at the pointy end, but not if you are in a Walkinshaw chassis...

[naca]

Anyone have any idea on roughly how much more buying two cars from 888 would have been compared to the current deal with Walkinshaw ? I'm guessing Erebus will be getting the two non HRT cars from last year.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by naca

Anyone have any idea on roughly how much more buying two cars from 888 would have been compared to the current deal with Walkinshaw ? I'm guessing Erebus will be getting the two non HRT cars from last year.

The issue may have been more one of supply than price. 888 seem to be able to sell everything they build (and more) while WP has probably 3 chassis left over from last year...

[Denosaur]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The issue may have been more one of supply than price. 888 seem to be able to sell everything they build (and more) while WP has probably 3 chassis left over from last year...

Like those front uprights......

Wonder if Erebus will be putting in an order to T8 for some of there's, or will Mr Little work some magic on them??

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Denosaur

Like those front uprights......

Wonder if Erebus will be putting in an order to T8 for some of there's, or will Mr Little work some magic on them??

If the Erebus car is a WP customer, its not likely that 888 will have manufacturing capacity *cough cough* to provide front suspension to them..

That said, the SupaShock package previously on the Benzes should be adaptable to the Commodore, since WP has trialled its use in the past...

[Umai Naa]

Not sure its wise to stray from what the motherhip is running, and still expect some sort of technical support. Didn't work out so well for LDM, when they tried to reinvent a perfectly good wheel.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Not sure its wise to stray from what the motherhip is running, and still expect some sort of technical support. Didn't work out so well for LDM, when they tried to reinvent a perfectly good wheel.

Keep remembering who the team is.....

Wonder if they are going to retrofit the 'Erebus Safety Cell' driver's seat to the WP-mobiles?

[Terry S]

Originally Posted by Reload

Getting off topic, but first I've heard of that nasty little rumour ??

With respect, I think the Hackett story is very relevant to this thread.

The tread is about how Erebus does things in an unusual manner. Surely getting rid of a driver who was an Aust. Formula 3 champion and twice Aust. GT champion is unusual.

If there was something wrong with Hackett why do Mercedes use him as Director of the Mercedes Benz Driving Academy. Such a firm could not countenance any hints of improprieties.

[GTRMagic]

"...Why I Went Holden..." - Mrs Klimenko

[Tourer]

I have to say that even though this all feels like something of a train wreck, it may well be an example of needing to take one step back to then take four steps forward.

If nothing else, running WP cars is going to mean that they have another team with (largely) the same gear to compare themselves to.

I take her point on Gen 2 as well - until all the details are confirmed, maybe it IS time to stop spending money on developing their own mousetraps and use someone else's.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Tourer

I have to say that even though this all feels like something of a train wreck, it may well be an example of needing to take one step back to then take four steps forward.

I can see the pragmatism of doing it, but what it means now is that Erebus has taken what SBR was, an amazingly capable powerhouse of the sport, and now it is no more valuable than LDM. That's the scary part.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by Mixer

I can see the pragmatism of doing it, but what it means now is that Erebus has taken what SBR was, an amazingly capable powerhouse of the sport, and now it is no more valuable than LDM. That's the scary part.

Yeah - completely agree and was thinking the same thing after I posted. SBR was a very capable team organisation and it is a very great shame that Erebus has decimated the original organisation it bought.

I don't know where the fault in that lies - with the owner or maybe with the supposedly capable management that was working for her but regardless of who is to blame, it is really sad to see a top-level operation such as SBR and all the capability within it urinated away in such a short period of time.

[mspence]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Yeah - completely agree and was thinking the same thing after I posted. SBR was a very capable team organisation and it is a very great shame that Erebus has decimated the original organisation it bought.

I don't know where the fault in that lies - with the owner or maybe with the supposedly capable management that was working for her but regardless of who is to blame, it is really sad to see a top-level operation such as SBR and all the capability within it urinated away in such a short period of time.

What happened to the CEO?

Was he shown the door, or still around but in a different, less obvious role?

he was the former MB Aus guy, wasn't he?

[Umai Naa]

It's been mentioned previously that Ryan Maddison is no longer with Erebus.

His replacement has been mentioned a few times.

[Denosaur]

Originally Posted by Terry S

If there was something wrong with Hackett why do Mercedes use him as Director of the Mercedes Benz Driving Academy. Such a firm could not countenance any hints of improprieties.

They pay him a regular wage, and he tows the company line.

Drivers are a very disposal element in racing and unlike regular works places, then to get dismissed much quicker.