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The ATCC will continue to be awarded, the Bathurst 1000 will go on, and people will be employed. The mob that have acted as if they own Australian racing for 20 years will be gone though, and I hope the employment they find is in some other industry... |
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Certainly not a hatchet job, I thought it was fairly even handed.
As to GTRs theory that keeping your head in the sand and only talking about positive aspects of the category is the way to go, seriously mate? Maybe that's why we've reached this point, too much navel gazing and patting ourselves on the back. You can't just ignore facts - crowds are down, manufacturers have left BUT the racing is as good as ever, the driver skill level is internationally competitive, the production value of the show has improved immensely... If that's not enough for SC to thrive what do you suggest? If people aren't watching when the quality of the product is so high then that is a massive issue and your ignorance is bliss approach is laughable. |
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have to laugh at some posters on here, cherry picking an article.
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He forgot the italics.
The thing to remember is that this is the best catagory we have in Australia, on the whole. Big money being poured into it, it pulls a crowd, it gets the TV numbers, it gets mainstream media reognition. Nothing else really ticks all those boxes at this point in time. |
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Yes to name a few record/ significant spikes attendances since the last speculation:
Bathurst 2012/16 & an unprecedented rise in viewership in 2016 Gold Coast 2015 Symmons Plains 2016 Darwin, Townsville, Winton (up by 25,000 in 2016 in comparison to 2015) Supercars is not suffering it's only going through a slight bump sorry meant to say vast majority instead of every typing error poor editing on my behalf but still the point stands regardless Last edited by PS2244; 10 Mar 2017 at 14:52. |
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I'd go for any/some/all of the following:
- heat - ticket prices - no Sunday concert - the TV product is now so good/expensive people will stay at home - timing around Adelaide fringe But maybe you're right GTR, maybe the sky is falling. Hi LD2244, can you tell me since 2011 (the year you quoted) which year Eastern Creek/SMP, Phillip Island, Sandown and queensland Raceway received it's track attendance and viewership record? Thanks in advance. |
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Can't we talk about things here without going to extreme's to try and deflect attention from the facts? Adelaide saw the lowest Sunday crowd in 16 years and down 30,000 in the last 2 years - this isnt just the 2017 installment but also 2016. The start of a trend while also adding in that the departure of 2 motor manufacturers. I am not sure any viewership records have been broken either? Apart from Foxtel ones which have only been in existence since 2015. Last edited by D.R.T.; 11 Mar 2017 at 01:10. |
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Couldnt agree more. Mercedes were never involved, I was referring to the departures of Ford and Volvo
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Their departures are not reflective of the category it's reflective of the companies depleting profit margins/differentiating market approaches. Ford dealerships are vanishing/closing everywhere where I live they're becoming a rare sight. Ford Australia are rebounding of a 48 year low in sales in 2015 with an $191 million loss so they're departure was seemingly a way to reduce costs. In reference to Volvo they're coming out of 2016 where for the first time in a long time one of their models wasn't the top selling model in their home country Sweden (Volkswagen Gulf beat them). In addition they're heading away from Supercars engine model designs with their new 2018 models to be featuring hybrid engines it didn't make sense for their business to continue running in Supercars as it didn't reflect their marketing approach. They are taking this move to differentiate themselves from their European counterparts so running supercare didn't sense marketing wise so they withdrew. Manufacturers are a revolving door some will go some will enter that's how it's always been
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When the series relies on manufacturer involvement, manufacturers departing the series is most certainly reflective of the category.
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The catagory needs to be geared away from manufacturer reliance.
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I'm not sure about the Bathurst part though. The 1000 these days is welded to the Supercars Championship. The category owns the event, they promote the event and the whole thing revolves around them. It wouldn't be as simple as just putting another category into the race, you'd need a whole new promoter & management of the event and would be basically starting from scratch (just like V8Supercars did when they started the event in 1997) |
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