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11 Jan 2014, 01:27 (Ref:3352675) | #126 | ||
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Who will be the commentators for Fox & Ten? As far as I know Cromly is signed to V8 Supercar TV.
Will there be new blood brought in, hope so and with no bias. |
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12 Jan 2014, 02:07 (Ref:3352963) | #128 | ||
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The 20/twenty cricket is an interesting comparison. Been on pay previously and I'm led to believe was not rating well and not getting big crowds, gone FTA and the ratings and the crowds are bigger.
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12 Jan 2014, 04:43 (Ref:3352980) | #129 | |||
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I hope the deal is all session live on foxtel and FTA only have live races as has been mentioned here.. I for one are happy because a) I already have foxtel and B) us here in WA has always had delayed qualifying. |
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12 Jan 2014, 22:35 (Ref:3353236) | #130 | |||
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The concern/question is over the FTA content. Peter McKay has written that his sources are saying the FTA live coverage will be the 'marquee' events and the rest will be on delay. That's been refuted in the articles linked above, but there are no confirmed details other than 'more on FTA'. |
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1) A TV deal is not going to remain a secret. Once a deal is done you've only got a couple of days max to announce it before it leaks out. So may as well control the announcement yourself. 2) Morale booster. Given the state of the category at the moment with RECs being handed back and others in doubt, nearly every team struggling to pull full budgets together, confirmation of an improved deal for 2015 gives all of them light at the end of the tunnel and, in some cases, incentive to hang in for 12 more months and reap the rewards next year. You'd probably never know for sure, but that may be what swayed D'Alberto and Dumbrell to keep going because nobody expected those two to keep going at the Sydney 500. 3) Advertises that V8s is worth investing in. Other than the REC revenue drying up, the uncertainty over the TV deal right when many teams were trying to renew or sign new sponsorship deals was the biggest problem with the current deal. With it locked in 12 months ahead (albeit, with some unknown details) teams can use the extra lead time to get commercial support and plan ahead. |
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14 Jan 2014, 07:23 (Ref:3353725) | #133 | ||
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Going from live to delayed doesn't really bother me because i rarely watch live. I prefer to record and watch later, that way i can fast forward Matthew White's solo segments or any thing with Tom Williams or any network celebrity who is having "my first time at the V8s but i'm really enjoying it." I can also fast forward through any pre-recorded clip that has already been shown at least once that weekend.
I save myself heaps of time and some aggro by doing this and it allows me to watch at night. In the daytime, I'm working in the shed, not watching TV. |
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BUT the races must be shown in full and not a highlights package. Highlights packages are just horrible. |
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If done properly highlights can work and may attract the casual viewer. |
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15 Jan 2014, 01:52 (Ref:3354103) | #136 | |||
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I am hoping the coverage on Foxtel will provide live ad free races or at least use the NASCAR/Indycar technique of showing ads side by side with the live race coverage. |
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Of course, this all depends on race meeting format, qualifying format etc, but this echos what a few others of said of the viewer needing an incentive to subscribe to Foxtel. It won't bring in everyone obviously, but the incentive of everything live would be tempting to some. |
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16 Jan 2014, 03:54 (Ref:3354545) | #138 | |||
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Every round (exc Bathurst) has Saturday races and are events and C10 has the option of the main channel or OneHD to telecast races. |
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16 Jan 2014, 05:50 (Ref:3354564) | #139 | |
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I'd say Foxtel / Channel 10 would be thinking along the lines of what Sky NZ / Prime TV have done. Hopefully not so harsh for you Aussies though. Us kiwis only got the Puke round free to air last year.
I wouldn't take the comments of V8SC spokesmen too seriously, as they don't control Foxtel / Channel 10 who will own the coverage. |
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But I really don't think so. True a long time ago C7 abused the rights and showed highlights of the ATCC at ungodly hours in the southern states. But there are three fundamental differences from then to now: 1) They only had 1 channel and it was for AFL 2) They didn't want the ATCC - they only wanted Bathurst but had to take ATCC as part of the deal. 3) They were paying stuff-all for the rights, got all their money back from Bathurst and didn't really care. That all changed in 1997 when C10 took over the rights. For 2015 - they are stumping up some serious coin for it. Yes Foxtel will pay more, but it's still a significant investment for a cash-strapped station. They need to do a good job to get their money back. So their is an incentive for them in a business sense rather than as a goodwill gesture to the sport. I don't expect that the actual FTA viewing experience will change that much in 2015 to what it is now. The major difference is that you can get more if you're willing to pay for it. |
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But none of that contradicts my main point - C10 are paying good money, they have up to 3 stations to use - why would they mess it up? |
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It is stated in one of the "Australia's Greatest Motor Race" books that Channel 7 signed a long-term deal with the ARDC to continue to televise Bathurst from 1979, and the partnership was solidified in 1988 when Channel 7 bought into the race to help solve the ARDC/AMP/PROMO mess The ATCC television rights were with Channel 2 in the early-mid 80s while ch7 only showed Bathurst and the AMSCAR Series (the AMSCAR Series was no doubt tied to the Bathurst deal). Seven did start showing the ATCC in 1985 (while the endurance races still bounced around on Channel 2 or were not shown at all), and for something that was supposedly 'forced upon them' they gave it alot of airtime, particularly between 1985 and 1989. |
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Bathurst was always on 7. Sandown 500 was on ABC at times, because nobody else would take it. They gave it air time where it suited them because they had an investment in it. But ask anybody who tried to watch it during winter in Melbourne about the job they did. Regardless of all this ancient history, my points about the 2015 deal still stands, which is what we should be discussing. |
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27 Jan 2014, 12:29 (Ref:3360474) | #147 | ||
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Little bit back to the future?
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http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/02/17/...e-air-details/
Apparently only 6 events will be live on FTA next year. |
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If it's delay so that you won't see it until late at night - very very bad. I still cannot see the logic of doing that given they have 3 channels and, quite frankly - stuff-all content on them now. Unless it's part of a non-compete clause in the Foxtel/C10 agreement. |
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