[BTCC] BTCC 2017 Rumours & Silly Season

[luckn002]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Anyway, the main thing is Speedworks have invested in a new body kit, one that keeps the car looking fresh and hopefully performing well. I also like how it builds up to a full livery reveal and that they have found funds to test in Portugal.

Could it be hinting to increased backing from Toyota?

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Apologies, perhaps it's the viewpoint of the image? But the new picture it looked to my (admittedly amateur) eyes to be slanted at a different angle.

the mounting of the wing to the bootlid is exactly the same. teams can always adjust the tilt angle of the wing within a set range to adjust it to suit different tracks. thats why suttons mg at silverstone last year got excluded, because the rear wing was angled outside of that range.

[Sodemo]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

now show me a NGTC bootlid mount thats different from other NGTC bootlid mounts?

2 different boot mounts...

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

2 different boot mounts...

ok perhaps i should have been more precise. we were talking about the mounting position on the bootlid. my point is that where the wing is mounted on the bootlid cant change from where it has been regulated and located as toca set it in the wind tunnel.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

don't be daft. they are not bootlids. if its mounted on a tailgate or hatch obviously it uses a different mounting position and attachment to a bootlid. now show me a NGTC bootlid mount thats different from other NGTC bootlid mounts?

Saloons



Hatchbacks



Estates

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Saloons



Hatchbacks



Estates

if you read my post directly above you could have saved yourself the effort

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

if you read my post directly above you could have saved yourself the effort

The exocet cars show how an evolution in body can result in different wing mounts.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The exocet cars show how an evolution in body can result in different wing mounts.

omg. yes but the POSITION is still the same. which is what i said earlier. they cant move the position of where the rear wing is mounted to the bootlid.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

omg. yes but the POSITION is still the same. which is what i said earlier. they cant move the position of where the rear wing is mounted to the bootlid.

Agreed, just that the initial point was that the 2017 Toyota rear wing looks like it is mounted differently. Same place, but different mounting.

[Liquoriceman]

Originally Posted by luckn002

Could it be hinting to increased backing from Toyota?

I was thinking that too with the camo livery - more manufacturer support for the series?

[ExplodeTheApex]

Originally Posted by Liquoriceman

I was thinking that too with the camo livery - more manufacturer support for the series?

It's not impossible, although I doubt anything more than cheaper parts perhaps. Didn't Toyota give some support to the Toyota teams in the early NGTC years? A few of the cars had Toyota windscreen banners IIRC.

[jsmee]

Going back to my comment about the facelifted rear as well as the front - another pic of the rear below from Facebook. Looks like it is a complete facelift as someone else mentioned. Good to see!

[BLiTZ]

Now all we need is Motorbase to facelift the Focus's which has been long overdue!

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by touring fan01

the mounting of the wing to the bootlid is exactly the same. teams can always adjust the tilt angle of the wing within a set range to adjust it to suit different tracks. thats why suttons mg at silverstone last year got excluded, because the rear wing was angled outside of that range.

Ah, very interesting, thank you.

[thlbtcc]

Originally Posted by ExplodeTheApex

It's not impossible, although I doubt anything more than cheaper parts perhaps. Didn't Toyota give some support to the Toyota teams in the early NGTC years? A few of the cars had Toyota windscreen banners IIRC.

Yes they did, for teams running the Toyota engine, things were getting interesting. But the Toyota engine development seemed to fade away with the demise of an orange car and so did the Toyota banners.

[Sodemo]

I'm not particuarly keen on the big thick rear wing mounts seen on some of the cars (the Passat for instance). I much prefer the thinner, more elegant mounts as seen on the PMR Cruze's.

[luckn002]

Has anyone else noticed that all the e-spares branding appears to have vanished from recent pictures of the Motorbase Focus? (in Spain)

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by thlbtcc

Yes they did, for teams running the Toyota engine, things were getting interesting. But the Toyota engine development seemed to fade away with the demise of an orange car and so did the Toyota banners.

anyone missing Frankie on the grid and on TTT ?

[luckn002]

Originally Posted by luckn002

Has anyone else noticed that all the e-spares branding appears to have vanished from recent pictures of the Motorbase Focus? (in Spain)

Never mind, it's still there on at least one car - although at least one does not with larger duo sponsorship on the front so maybe only Depper will run with e-spares branding.

[S griffin]

I'm glad to see them getting a new car, the old one was getting long in the tooth and now in their 7th season, Speedworks are now a consistent front runner. A far cry from Tony Hughes' struggles in 2011

[pagey318]

Originally Posted by S griffin

I'm glad to see them getting a new car, the old one was getting long in the tooth and now in their 7th season, Speedworks are now a consistent front runner. A far cry from Tony Hughes' struggles in 2011

I thought their car was a new one anyway, new for 2015. Or have I missed something?!

[psq43]

Originally Posted by pagey318

I thought their car was a new one anyway, new for 2015. Or have I missed something?!

You're quite right. It was a brand new car.

I hope he meant that it was the style that had been going for 7 seasons

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by psq43

You're quite right. It was a brand new car.

I hope he meant that it was the style that had been going for 7 seasons

5 seasons. The original Mk3 Avensis ran in 2011 and was mildly facelifted for 2012 with a new grille and front and rear lights.

[Sodemo]

Which Avensis is the original James Thompson test mule that ran at Brands Hatch?

[Jiiiiiiim]

Originally Posted by Sodemo

Which Avensis is the original James Thompson test mule that ran at Brands Hatch?

Yeah but that never raced, the details on all the cars are on here www.touringcarregister.com