[BTCC] Races 19, 20 & 21 - Knockhill, Fife - 16th August 2009

[Last2LiftOff]

How many laps is Race 1?

Is the sun never out over there?

[Hazard]

Originally Posted by Last2LiftOff

How many laps is Race 1?

Is the sun never out over there?

24, and no

[Last2LiftOff]

Taking their time cleaning-up.

[Icebaby]

Poor turn out by the teams, 10 in the G50 ?, I hope the ticket prices reflect this.

[Hazard]

Grid for Race 2 + Race 1 Result

1 - Jason Plato (3) - Racing Silverline - Chevrolet Lacetti - 27 Laps


2 - Gordon Shedden (52) - Cartridge World Racing - SEAT Leon - 2.409


3 - Mat Jackson (2) - Racing Silverline - Chevrolet Lacetti - 2.873


4 - Colin Turkington (4) - Team RAC - BMW 320si - 3.385


5 - Jonathan Adam (12) - Team Airwaves - BMW 320si - 3.808


6 - Fabrizio Giovanardi (1) - VX Racing - Vauxhall Vectra - 4.160


7 - Andrew Jordan (77) - VX Racing - Vauxhall Vectra - 5.198


8 - Stephen Jelley (44) - Team RAC - BMW 320si - 7.932


9 - Paul O'Neill (29) - Techspeed - Honda Integra - 7.988


10 - Harry Vaulkhard (17) - Bamboo Engineering - Chevrolet Lacetti - 9.474


11 - Tom Chilton (10) - Team Aon - Ford Focus ST - 10.647


12 - Martin Johnson (63) - Boulevard Team Racing - Vauxhall Astra Coupe - 19.253


13 - John George (50) - TH Motorsport - Honda Integra - 26.830


14 - James Thompson (35) - Team Dynamics - Honda Civic - DNF


15 - David Pinkney (55) - Team Dynamics - Honda Civic - DNF


16 - Robert Collard (11) - Team Airwaves - BMW 320si - DNF


17 - Matt Neal (5) - VX Racing - Vauxhall Vectra - DNF


Car Graphics Courtesy of Andy Blackmore Design | Spotter Guides

[Last2LiftOff]

14.50 Round 20 Sun
17.00 Round 21 Sun

Edit: success ballast?

[cos]

Well that was good fun to watch. Good drives from Thommo and Neal to work their way up the field, and O'Neill kept up the pace too. Looks like Shedden's SEAT couldn't handle the ballast but a decent try anyway.

[Hazard]

Race 2 Result + Race 3 Grid

1	Fabrizio Giovanardi	1	VX Racing	Vauxhall Vectra	26 Laps
2	Mat Jackson	2	Racing Silverline	Chevrolet Lacetti	+1.377s
3	Colin Turkington	4	Team RAC	BMW 320si	+2.075s
4	Matt Neal	5	VX Racing	Vauxhall Vectra	+7.307s
5	Paul O'Neill	29	Techspeed	Honda Integra	+10.316s
6	James Thompson	35	Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	+12.122s
7	Jonathan Adam	12	Team Airwaves	BMW 320si	+12.744s
8	Stephen Jelley	44	Team RAC	BMW 320si	+16.567s
9	Gordon Shedden	52	Cartridge World Racing	SEAT Leon	+18.081s
10	Andrew Jordan	77	VX Racing	Vauxhall Vectra	+18.288s
11	Tom Chilton	10	Team Aon	Ford Focus ST	+19.013s
12	Robert Collard	11	Team Airwaves	BMW 320si	+19.110s
13	Martin Johnson	63	Boulevard Team Racing	Vauxhall Astra Coupe	+33.464s
14	John George	50	TH Motorsport	Honda Integra	+1 Lap
15	David Pinkney	55	Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	+13 Laps
16	Harry Vaulkhard	17	Bamboo Engineering	Chevrolet Lacetti	+24 Laps
17	Jason Plato	3	Racing Silverline	Chevrolet Lacetti	+26 Laps

1 - James Thompson (35) - Team Dynamics - Honda Civic - +12.122s


2 - Paul O'Neill (29) - Techspeed - Honda Integra - +10.316s


3 - Matt Neal (5) - VX Racing - Vauxhall Vectra - +7.307s


4 - Colin Turkington (4) - Team RAC - BMW 320si - +2.075s


5 - Mat Jackson (2) - Racing Silverline - Chevrolet Lacetti - +1.377s


6 - Fabrizio Giovanardi (1) - VX Racing - Vauxhall Vectra - 26 Laps


7 - Jonathan Adam (12) - Team Airwaves - BMW 320si - +12.744s


8 - Stephen Jelley (44) - Team RAC - BMW 320si - +16.567s


9 - Gordon Shedden (52) - Cartridge World Racing - SEAT Leon - +18.081s


10 - Andrew Jordan (77) - VX Racing - Vauxhall Vectra - +18.288s


11 - Tom Chilton (10) - Team Aon - Ford Focus ST - +19.013s


12 - Robert Collard (11) - Team Airwaves - BMW 320si - +19.110s


13 - Martin Johnson (63) - Boulevard Team Racing - Vauxhall Astra Coupe - +33.464s


14 - John George (50) - TH Motorsport - Honda Integra - +1 Lap


15 - David Pinkney (55) - Team Dynamics - Honda Civic - +13 Laps


16 - Harry Vaulkhard (17) - Bamboo Engineering - Chevrolet Lacetti - +24 Laps


17 - Jason Plato (3) - Racing Silverline - Chevrolet Lacetti - +26 Laps


Car Graphics Courtesy of Andy Blackmore Design | Spotter Guides

[Icebaby]

Neal and Collard looked like they were being overly aggressive and lacked manners, Sheddens punt back totally justifed.

O'Neil and Thompson showed quality drives and clean racing.

Silverline/RML look fragile with that Chevy which is suprising taking into acount how fault free it ran in WTCC, what is going on there?

[Hazard]

That was one of the great races!

Race 3 Result

Pos	Driver	No	Team	Car	Time
1	Mat Jackson	2	Racing Silverline	Chevrolet Lacetti	27 Laps
2	Jason Plato	3	Racing Silverline	Chevrolet Lacetti	+3.225s
3	Fabrizio Giovanardi	1	VX Racing	Vauxhall Vectra	+9.473s
4	Matt Neal	5	VX Racing	Vauxhall Vectra	+9.760s
5	Colin Turkington	4	Team RAC	BMW 320si	+10.035s
6	James Thompson	35	Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	+10.314s
7	Andrew Jordan	77	VX Racing	Vauxhall Vectra	+10.899s
8	Tom Chilton	10	Team Aon	Ford Focus ST	+13.395s
9	Paul O'Neill	29	Techspeed	Honda Integra	+13.695s
10	Stephen Jelley	44	Team RAC	BMW 320si	+13.933s
11	Harry Vaulkhard	17	Bamboo Engineering	Chevrolet Lacetti	+14.558s
12	David Pinkney	55	Team Dynamics	Honda Civic	+17.063s
13	Martin Johnson	63	Boulevard Team Racing	Vauxhall Astra Coupe	+44.172s
14	John George	50	TH Motorsport	Honda Integra	+46.348s
15	Robert Collard	11	Team Airwaves	BMW 320si	+16 Laps
16	Jonathan Adam	12	Team Airwaves	BMW 320si	+21 Laps
17	Gordon Shedden	52	Cartridge World Racing	SEAT Leon	+26 Laps

[Craner Curves]

Exaggerating a wee bit maybe? It was pretty good, but not a classic. I knew VXR would use the team orders card to switch Neal and Giovanardi.

Comedy moment of the day had to be Adam putting Neal on the grass and then into Collard.

[Hazard]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Exaggerating a wee bit maybe? It was pretty good, but not a classic. I knew VXR would use the team orders card to switch Neal and Giovanardi.

Comedy moment of the day had to be Adam putting Neal on the grass and then into Collard.

I thought there was some exceptional driving. Some great moves, and not so many take outs as you would expect when driving like that.

That's the third race of course. Silly incidents in the first two - like the one you've mentioned

[Icebaby]

Two comedy moments for me..

Race 3 Louise Goodman speaks to Matt Neal him saying he is going to go for the win" Louise moves to Colin T and states Matt Jackson said it ??? doh!

Johnny Adams getting soaked with his own fire extinquisher....

[Hazard]

Originally Posted by Icebaby

Johnny Adams getting soaked with his own fire extinquisher....

It'd be way funnier if he got soaked with somebody elses, but guess that would be one of the great out of car punch ups to be seen over again if it did happen

[gomick]

Good to see Mat Jackson have a decent round. What has been his problem this year?

[BootsOntheSide]

ITV4 were pretty bad today. No Formula Ford races despite the chance of showing something different (and maybe a first glimpse of a future champion), lost sound for the start of a pre-recorded race, excessive Johnny Herbert, and a couple of basic errors and slip-ups from the presenters.

The Ginetta field may have been small, but the racing was great. The Carreras were about as good as ever (and with a decent-sized grid). All 3 BTCC races were well above average too.

Cartridge World will learn quickly how to deal with the success ballast. The Chevy was the class of the field and could've had 3 win+podium results. In that context, questions have to be asked of why Vaulkhard was further back than usual. A shame to see such blatant team orders at the end of race 3, but the consolation of Neal having to be #2 is enough. It makes you realise just how good the Integra was (and still is, in O'Neill's hands).

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Exaggerating a wee bit maybe? It was pretty good, but not a classic.

It was pretty close to a classic... an absolute humdinger of a race... had me on the edge of my seat. Plato's performance was truely stupendous. The BTCC at its absolute best.

[Down F0rce]

This was my first ever Touring Car meeting and it certainly won't be the last. Plato was fantastic in race three, and all of the other races were great fun to watch too.

[aland]

of the support races the G50's were a joke 9 on saturday and 10 on sunday, they should be booted off the TOCA pachage and replaced by something that has a grid and racing like the national legends. spectators can go and get fed etc while they are on, we cant. everything else was okay.

another thing wish spectators would show a bit of decency in the q for the loos and let a marshal jump it, we have sod all time between races once we have cleaned up and if we need a pee it is a fast one, thankfully someone came out the disabled one and i was able to nip in there. some one moaned at me and i was close to telling him to feck off but i didnt

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by davyboy

It was pretty close to a classic... an absolute humdinger of a race... had me on the edge of my seat. Plato's performance was truely stupendous. The BTCC at its absolute best.

Running with the fastest car and zero ballast in a field of 17 cars didn't exactly make it that much of a task in my opinion. I assume the Lacettis still run with the WTCC dispensations in their engines?

Originally Posted by aland

of the support races the G50's were a joke 9 on saturday and 10 on sunday, they should be booted off the TOCA pachage and replaced by something that has a grid and racing like the national legends. spectators can go and get fed etc while they are on, we cant. everything else was okay.

To be fair, there have been more in the other rounds this year, just the usual Knockhill's too far away excuses.

[touringlegend]

It was pretty good Race 3 watching it from the centre of the circuit next to the commentary tower. Although pretty windy it was good to be able to watch Plato's progress especially all round the track.

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Running with the fastest car and zero ballast in a field of 17 cars didn't exactly make it that much of a task in my opinion. I assume the Lacettis still run with the WTCC dispensations in their engines?

That place is pretty tricky for overtaking and his car wasn't that much faster. I'm not sure about the Lacetti's engine... but that's another matter. I still think it was a great drive and certainly a very entertaining race.

[Last2LiftOff]

Originally Posted by touringlegend

Although pretty windy it was good to be able to watch Plato's progress especially all round the track.

A nifty wee track that. Knockhill.

[touringlegend]

I was under the impression the S2000 cars don't get the same dispensations in the BTCC as the WTCC cars but then I heard it mentioned the Lacetti's have a flat floor?

[gregc]

Originally Posted by touringlegend

I was under the impression the S2000 cars don't get the same dispensations in the BTCC as the WTCC cars but then I heard it mentioned the Lacetti's have a flat floor?

Funnily enough I was wondering about this earlier on (Tim Harvey mentioned it I think), so I've stuck the question on Alan's forum.

I thought race 2 was the best of the day - Plato's run through the field in 3 was impressive, but for overall entertainment and action right down the grid race 2 was brilliant to watch.