2022-2023 Silly Season Thread - Page 20

seanyb505 · 8 Oct 2022, 02:48 (Ref:4129107)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Gasman and de Vries now confirmed.

Sargeant to follow in Austin.

Schuey sticking around or...

E.B · 8 Oct 2022, 05:48 (Ref:4129124)

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Originally Posted by seanyb505

Schuey sticking around or...

He hasnt exactly covered himself in glory this weekend.... he needs to turn things around for the balance of the weekend, and not write any more chassis off in silly circumstances.

bathurst77 · 8 Oct 2022, 09:20 (Ref:4129162)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Talk here is that Gasly to Alpine and de Vries to AT might be about done.

Personally I don't really get why AT would want de Vries so badly, but hey ho.

Seems to leave Williams to choose between Sargeant, Schumacher and Ricciardo? Or will Schuey stay at Haas after all?

Well called then so
:TipsMeLid

Greem · 8 Oct 2022, 11:21 (Ref:4129174)

Ricciardo not just out of McLaren, but out of F1 completely.

https://racingnews365.com/ricciardo-...1-grid-in-2023

Tourer · 8 Oct 2022, 11:24 (Ref:4129175)

Dani Ric confirms that he won't be racing F1 in 2023. Of course, not a surprise but I hope that we see him back and more to the point, see him back in better form than he and McLaren have produced - such a shame if his F1 career finished on something of a low note - be great to see a few of those special drives he can produce and go out on more of a high.

Edit - snap! Greem beat me to it.

peebee2 · 8 Oct 2022, 11:35 (Ref:4129178)

If true disappointing to see him rejecting staying on the grid for the potential of thinking he'll get a better seat the following year.

Mind you this is the guy who asked his manager to find him a big money deal and then refused to pay him when he did just that, and (somewhat obviously) lost when it went to court. That wasn't the smartest set of moves either.

dsg · 8 Oct 2022, 13:28 (Ref:4129200)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

then refused to pay him

Could have been worse, at least his manager wasn't his father.

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Originally Posted by Greem

Ricciardo not just out of McLaren, but out of F1 completely.

It seemed Ricciardo wasn't interested or didn't have the mindset to drive next year so this decision doesn't come as a surprise. Maybe a test driver role to keep his hand in in case something comes up but I fear this year may be the last for Ricciardo.

peebee2 · 8 Oct 2022, 16:37 (Ref:4129234)

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Could have been worse, at least his manager wasn't his father.

Out of interest which driver has his father as his manager except maybe Stroll?

gert · 8 Oct 2022, 17:47 (Ref:4129256)

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Out of interest which driver has his father as his manager except maybe Stroll?

Currently? I don't know.

But at a certain moment in time (and that may be what he is referring to?)
Hamilton?
Button?
Rosberg?

peebee2 · 8 Oct 2022, 18:17 (Ref:4129264)

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Originally Posted by gert

Currently? I don't know.

But at a certain moment in time (and that may be what he is referring to?)
Hamilton?
Button?
Rosberg?

Hamilton was represented by Mark Hines for a long time. Changed a year or two ago, can't remember the new name. The only driver I can remember Anthony Hamilton representing was di Resta and that also ended badly, and in court.

Button I don't think was represented by his Dad beyond Formula Ford.

Rosberg, I really can't remember.

Mike Harte · 8 Oct 2022, 21:30 (Ref:4129312)

Hamilton was managed by his father until only a few years ago, but he sacked him causing a lot of acrimony between them.

peebee2 · 9 Oct 2022, 00:09 (Ref:4129339)

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Hamilton was managed by his father until only a few years ago, but he sacked him causing a lot of acrimony between them.

Was he though? Or was he was part of the broader team but not actually managing him? Bit like Verstappen.

bathurst77 · 9 Oct 2022, 03:51 (Ref:4129382)

Sometimes a driver can sit out a year or so and come back.. hulk Alonso, but I cant see it for Dan

Alonso was 2 x WDC and I think hulk was just in right place at right time. But as much as I like Dan the Man, I think his form over the last 4 years has been on a downward trend and there is a LOT of young hungry (cheaper?) drivers desperate to break in to f1.

maybe some kind of mentor/coaching advisor role.
Or Lemans/Bathurst/Nascar/Indy?

dsg · 9 Oct 2022, 09:34 (Ref:4129428)

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Out of interest which driver has his father as his manager except maybe Stroll?

Hamilton didn't pay his father following their split. Not sure if it was settled out of court amicably like the Ricciardo matter.

peebee2 · 9 Oct 2022, 10:36 (Ref:4129435)

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Originally Posted by dsg

Hamilton didn't pay his father following their split. Not sure if it was settled out of court amicably like the Ricciardo matter.

Amicably! Lol.

S griffin · 10 Oct 2022, 13:19 (Ref:4129709)

Bit late having been away for the weekend, but interesting to see what everyone expected happen with Gasly at Alpine and to a lesser extent de Vries at AT.

I'm not surprised Gasly has made the switch. He was unlikely to up to the main Red Bull team again, so he needed to make a move or his career would continue to stagnate. Be interesting to see how him and Ocon get on due to the history between. Also interesting to see how de Vries gets on in the Red Bull enviroment, will it make or break him?

Sad that Ricciardo has resigned himself to a year on the sidelines. He hasn't completely given up yet, but he is right not to get his hopes up too much. Shame really, he's still my favourite and the past few GPs he has been closer to Norris, so he can still do a good job. But he might not get another chance and it would be a shame after a relatively successful career for it to end like this

dsg · 13 Oct 2022, 04:37 (Ref:4130079)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Amicably! Lol.

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However, Beavis has now confirmed that he and Ricciardo had “reached an amicable settlement over the amounts due”.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/riccia...ormer-manager/

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In a joint statement, the two said: “Daniel Ricciardo and Glenn Beavis are pleased to confirm that they have reached an amicable settlement over the amounts due to Glenn and thus bringing to an end the proceedings in the High Court in London. Daniel and Glenn wish each other well in their future endeavours.”

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/moto...y1nokwotmxyg0o

Yeah, amicable according to those actually involved.

peebee2 · 13 Oct 2022, 06:26 (Ref:4130082)

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https://www.planetf1.com/news/riccia...ormer-manager/

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/moto...y1nokwotmxyg0o

Yeah, amicable according to those actually involved.

Do you believe everything you read?

Amicable people don’t resort to legal process to enforce contractual rights.

S griffin · 13 Oct 2022, 07:16 (Ref:4130092)

Looks like Ricciardo could end up as a reserve/development driver. I think any team would be lucky to have him in that regard.

crmalcolm · 13 Oct 2022, 08:41 (Ref:4130101)

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Amicable people don’t resort to legal process to enforce contractual rights.

It did not say that they were amicable prior to the court proceedings - are you confusing this with being amiable?

The settlement was amicable - something that happens on a regular basis after legal process. It is entirely feasible (in fact common) for two parties to be amicable after a legal process.

nb - prenup? Is that not an amicable legal process?

peebee2 · 13 Oct 2022, 09:25 (Ref:4130103)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

It did not say that they were amicable prior to the court proceedings - are you confusing this with being amiable?

The settlement was amicable - something that happens on a regular basis after legal process. It is entirely feasible (in fact common) for two parties to be amicable after a legal process.

nb - prenup? Is that not an amicable legal process?

No, I'm not confusing anything. He didn't want to pay his manager what he owed and, when he finally realised he was going to lose in court, he settled. Meaningless words like amicably are typically used in such situations. If it was really amicable they would never have been in the situation to start with.

broadrun96 · 13 Oct 2022, 12:22 (Ref:4130118)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Do you believe everything you read?

Amicable people don’t resort to legal process to enforce contractual rights.

No, that's EXACTLY what most do. Provides you and the other party with a written and more importantly protected and vetted agreement. If they are lawyers involving the court process gets both parties a secured decision. It's literally an EVERYDAY occurrence

dsg · 14 Oct 2022, 05:07 (Ref:4130183)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Do you believe everything you read?

Not from anonymous people on an internet forum, but when it is widely reported from the actual sources it carries weight.

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Amicable people don’t resort to legal process to enforce contractual rights.

Except when the disputed contractual rights need to be lawfully established as they were in this case at which point the matter was settled amicably.

If not using the legal process, how would a disputed legal matter be settled? Swords at dawn?

peebee2 · 14 Oct 2022, 06:56 (Ref:4130188)

It’s quite endearing how people can be so naive.

Mike Harte · 14 Oct 2022, 08:44 (Ref:4130201)

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It’s quite endearing how people can be so naive.

And you are being typically passive aggressive!

I should add that you are entitled to your own opinion, but equally so are others that you disagree with.

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