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Old 14 Aug 2002, 15:19 (Ref:357766)   #1
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some advice needed

hey guys/girls
just some advice needed please.... would a peugeot 306 1.9 diesel
pull a small trailer with a peugeot 205gti on board....i know there are limits on how much a car can tow....
as i'm looking to buy a car to tow said trailer/car
cheers all

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Old 14 Aug 2002, 16:16 (Ref:357784)   #2
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hiya,
size of tow car is something ive been looking into too. I'll let someone with towing experience answer this, but what i heard is that its ok to tow upto 80% of the tow cars weight. - can anyone verify this??
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 16:33 (Ref:357790)   #3
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hi woody
so if its 80% i might get away with it!! as the pug 205 is stripped out... but would like to know for deffo b4 we buy..
maybe i should contact peugeot
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 16:39 (Ref:357793)   #4
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yeah needs checking out properly before you buy, I phoned Ford before and they couldnt answer my question DOH.

ps: you going to be racing a 205 then ? if so which championship?
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 16:52 (Ref:357801)   #5
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gona be racing in the 750 stock hatch
looks like a very popular championship with over 60 cars per race meet they normally have to run 2 races to fit them all in... so fastest quallys go in the first race and so on!! points down to 50th place
cars are almost standard
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 17:10 (Ref:357804)   #6
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nice one
Stock hatches was one of the championships i was looking at.
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 17:17 (Ref:357808)   #7
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got mayself a very tidy car ready to go... need to do some testing/track days to get used to how it drives.. b4 next season..
so what champ you going for then?
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 20:38 (Ref:357930)   #8
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i wanna do 750 Formula Vee (if possible), it will probably be half way through next year when im ready to buy a car though.
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Old 15 Aug 2002, 07:55 (Ref:358152)   #9
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The vehicle handbook should list the towing weights...
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I have docs about the much newer Peugeot 307, but it can be useful for reference.

Diesel 2.0 HDI 90CV, well above your car, is homologated to tow 1300kg

Normal 1.4 75CV, a bit above your car, is homolog for 1000kg

Your 1.9 diesel maybe is equiv to 1.2 or 1.3 normal engine, so your homologateg tow capacity is maybe 1000kg or 900kg or something aroung it.

My dear old P205 weigthed around 850kg, your race prep car is lighter for sure, and you will know its weight with precission. Add the trailer and we surely have a very close legal situation.

Conclusion: IMHO look the official homologated figures because it is not clearly below or above your case

I hope this is useful somehow. If someone had the original user handbook for the 309...
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Old 15 Aug 2002, 17:44 (Ref:358500)   #11
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thanx for that info Schummy does sound like i might get away with the 306 diesel we don't have the car yet... just doing some homework b4 we buy... going by the caravan association... you shouldn't exceed 85% of the cars gross weight..... so i might have a prob, going by that.... the 205 is around the 800gk i don't know what the gross weight of a 306 is

i'll have to do some more searching:confused:
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Old 16 Aug 2002, 22:01 (Ref:359458)   #12
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That sounds about right, the Sports Six Club ran a piece in their mag with the same info, but that is assuming the trailer is braked, if not the wight should not be more than half the weight of the car. Personaly, I would keep well within the weight limit and don't forget the speed limits for towing (50mph on an A road, 65 on a motorway) Also, get a stablizer, they are well worth the cost!
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Old 16 Aug 2002, 22:03 (Ref:359459)   #13
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It's also worth finding somewhere to practice reversing etc so you don't make a fool out of yourself in front of people who have been towing for years!!!
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Old 19 Aug 2002, 08:44 (Ref:360974)   #14
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any 306 can tow 1200kg .. hope it helps

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Old 19 Aug 2002, 15:01 (Ref:361306)   #15
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any 306 can tow 1200kg .. hope it helps

dan is that official?? if so that would make my other half very happy as she really wants a 306!!!
my 205 that i need to tow is 820kg... so need a very samll light trailer
thanx dan for the info
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 07:15 (Ref:361851)   #16
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Don't forget to factor in the weight of a trailer. A small light trailer is around 300-400kg. I would also strongly recommend a rear wheel drive car. FWD is not suitable for heavy towing.
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Old 30 Aug 2002, 07:23 (Ref:368836)   #18
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i think a 4WD is even better ... .. also to be sure about the max tow limit ... please tell the year of make ... of the car ... if is older than 1997
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ups.. I can't edit my post ... i forgot to say that is necesary for the trailer to have it's own braking sistem .. if not the tow limit is very small
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