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Old 1 Oct 2003, 12:58 (Ref:736645)   #1
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2004 season facts and rumors.

I have decided to start this thread as a few people were disapointed at the closing of the last thread. Now if everyone can be civil towards each other the thread will stay open. Please keep in mind the livelyhood of the teams and drivers if you wish to post some information about a certian team or driver.

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Old 1 Oct 2003, 13:47 (Ref:736707)   #2
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Any word on Steve Ellery's sponsorship? - Steve himself was saying it should be all wrapped up this week......

(Thanks for restarting the thread mtpanorama, hopefully will last a bit longer than the last one!)
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Old 1 Oct 2003, 23:02 (Ref:737255)   #3
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Thanks mtpanorama for reopening the thread

So lets start again with the 2004 Supercar starting lineup. perhaps a little more serious this time

Blue
DJR 2 Brabham/Johnson
FPR 3 Besnard/Seton/Noske
SBR 4 Ambrose/Ingall/Winterbottom/Lowndes
BJR 3 Jones/Bowe/Fernandez
LMS 2 Larkham/Bargwanna
888 2 Radisich/Rydell
SER 1 Ellery
TMR 1 Thexton
Total.... 18

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SHRT 2 Skaife/Kelly
KKRT 2 Murphy/Kelly
PWR 2 Weel/Bright
DYN 2 Richards/Wills
GRM 2 Tander/Pretty
CPR 3 Richards/Longhurst/Mezera
PMM 2 Morris/Faulkner
LRT 1 McConville
TKR 1 Baird
Total.... 17

Other fun:
- Toll Racing off to run Nations Cup in a Porsche, franchise to BJR
- Romano Racing finally retired, absorbed into PMM
- PMM upgrades 2 L2s into a L1
- IMS & PWR L2's absorbed into SBR
- Noske still running 1/2 the LRT L1 franchise but running an FPR car

Lets not forget this is a fantasy and should not be taken and gospel-type-fact.... (somthing I thought would have been obvious but there you go)
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 00:33 (Ref:737302)   #4
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woah, where did Lowndes into SBR come from?
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 00:58 (Ref:737321)   #5
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Because of the lemons he's had since leaving HRT
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 01:01 (Ref:737325)   #6
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If you were promised a proper prodrive car at the start of the year, and were given a tarted up first-gen ex-GSR version, with engines as old as 3 years in spec, would you be a happy camper??
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 01:54 (Ref:737357)   #7
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I suppose that Neil Crompton is not driving next year? Was he interested in a Sandown/Bathurst drive for this year, or were there no offers forthcoming for him?
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 02:29 (Ref:737379)   #8
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If you were promised a proper prodrive car at the start of the year, and were given a tarted up first-gen ex-GSR version, with engines as old as 3 years in spec, would you be a happy camper??
I was somewhat dismayed at the revelation recently where it was admitted that that FPR's Bathurst outlook was bleaker than first declared after the engine upgrades were pushed back.

Lowndes must obviously be a very patient person.
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 04:05 (Ref:737440)   #9
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Patient would not be my description... he has nowhere else to go at present, but expect the same kinda junk as last year with the Forbes nightmare
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 04:07 (Ref:737442)   #10
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HRT : Skaife / Longhurst L1 - HRT
KRT: T Kelly / R Kelly L1 – KRT (ex Faulkner L1)
PWR: Weel / Bright PWR – (ex 00m)
TD: Wills / J Richards TD L1 (ex Romano)
CPR: S Richards / McConville CPR L1 - Perkins
CPR -TKR: Murphy and Barid (TKR L2 Nash L2)
PMM: Morris / Ritter PMM L2 (McDougall/Romano L2)
GRM: Tander / Whincup GRM L1
Holdens - 16

SBR: Ambrose/Ingall SBR L1
SBR - TNR: Noske/Winterbottem TNR L1 – (LSR L1)
FPR: Lowndes/Seton FPR L1 - ( ex Seton L1)
FPR - Besnard/Kelly Ellery L2-Imire L2
BJR: Jones/Bowe BJR L1
LMS: Bargwanna/Canto LMS L1
888: Radisich/McLean 888L1 – (exbriggsL1)
DJR:Johnson/Ellery DJR L1
Toll: Tratt Toll L2
TMS:Thexton TMS L2 (ex Mclean L2)
00m: Forbes 00m L2 ( ex Weel L2)
Fords - 19
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 04:29 (Ref:737451)   #11
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only one problem Seton_5, 00m got sold to the kelly's to the run the kmart banner under
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 05:06 (Ref:737464)   #12
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My information has Lowndes staying at FPR.
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 07:40 (Ref:737594)   #13
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As I know it to be true, prodrive will leave the series at the end of 2004, and provide their franchise and Ford funding to SBR to run the 4 cars mentioned.
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Old 2 Oct 2003, 07:53 (Ref:737605)   #14
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As I know it to be true, prodrive will leave the series at the end of 2004, and provide their franchise and Ford funding to SBR to run the 4 cars mentioned.
Possible I suppose but this Thread is about next year not 2005.
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If you were promised a proper prodrive car at the start of the year, and were given a tarted up first-gen ex-GSR version, with engines as old as 3 years in spec, would you be a happy camper??
Happier than being locked in as Mr.Skaife's number 2 driver.

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Old 2 Oct 2003, 07:57 (Ref:737610)   #16
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Lets not forget this is a fantasy and should not be taken and gospel-type-fact.... (somthing I thought would have been obvious but there you go)
So GTR, what's your take on the future for Dumbrell and Whincup? Back to FFord?
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Dumbrell never made it through this particular development path, more to his detriment... straight to FH then Konica was his path, which in some ways he is paying the price now.

Whincup isnt performing either, and has torn up some equipment this season in overuse and crash damage. His boss keeps saying positive things, which often is the kiss of death....

If Dumbrell wanted to, his future could lay in Nations Cup. Whincup isnt a SORF, so if he loses the Valvoline gig, it could be all over
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As I know it to be true, prodrive will leave the series at the end of 2004, and provide their franchise and Ford funding to SBR to run the 4 cars mentioned.
I find this very hard to believe, have you seen the size of the shed they are building in Broady.

They would not be investing this much money for the short haul, and I find it hard to believe that Lowndes would have come on board for "another" short duration stint.

Me thinks that True Believer is making this up!!!, but thats OK coz it is just a bit of fun, ISN'T IT!!!

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Only have to wait 14 months to see if he is right.

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Well SBR could always relocate to Broadmeadows, to get closer to the source...
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TNR is also not linked to either SBR or FPR in 2004, the team is currently within days of signing a new naming rights sponsor and will continue with it's current format.
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Aww, now we are messing up a fun thread with facts. Doncha just hate that

Here's hoping you can get a new sponsor across the line Mark, and get a shiny new BA
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Ellery wil not race at DJR next season. The decision was made today and It wasnt Ellery. Whether they have kept Max or not is another story. Very dissapointing, He would have been good for the team. I hope DJR can get there act together and find an experienced driver for next year. This puts end to Seton_5`s prediction.
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TNR is also not linked to either SBR or FPR in 2004, the team is currently within days of signing a new naming rights sponsor and will continue with it's current format.
Good news Mark. Is ICS still on board
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Supercheap have resigned with Ellery, that is my prediction that should be confirmed very very soon.
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