pre test forecast's

M Power · 6 Jan 2002, 00:11 (Ref:194617)

Hi well I'am new so I though I'd try this out

does anyone have any though's on how the pecking order in 02 will
shape up. before testing . cyrstal balls out anyone

1.FERRARI still no.1
2.BMW willams what a motor
3.REANULT
4.MERC mc laren

5.JAGUAR
6.SAUBER
7.BAR
8.MINARDI
9.TOYOTA
10.ARROWS
11.JORDAN
12.PROST

now of coruse not all driver line up's aren't complete and testing
hasn't started but its a slow news week

mac · 6 Jan 2002, 00:33 (Ref:194621)

Jordan in eleventh!? I can't see that happening.

I also think Minardi will improve but probably not by that much.

My thoughts (more for the season than testing):

1. Ferrari
2. Williams
3. McLaren
4. Renault
5. Jordan
6. Jaguar
7. Sauber
8. BAR
9. Toyota
10. Arrows
11. Minardi
12. Prost (if they make it)

Kelstea · 6 Jan 2002, 00:36 (Ref:194624)

Hi M power welcome!

1.Ferrari(yawn yawn)
2.McLaren(yawn yawn)
3.Williams
4.Jordans(I hope!)

5.Renault
6.Toyota
7.BAR
8.Sauber
9.Jaguar

10.Arrows
11.Minardi
12.Prost?

M Power · 6 Jan 2002, 09:30 (Ref:194663)

hi Kelstea
Jordan F1 seem to have alot of support out there

but I just feel that they have been on the back foot later and now
with no naming sponsor big back steps should follow

Nicholas · 6 Jan 2002, 22:16 (Ref:194676)

5.JAGUAR

6.SAUBER

7.BAR

8.MINARDI

9.TOYOTA
10.ARROWS
11.JORDAN

12.PROST

Speedworx · 6 Jan 2002, 22:36 (Ref:194686)

1. McLaren
2. Ferrari
3. Williams
4. Jordan
5. Sauber
6. Jaguar
7. Toyota
8. Renault
9. BAR
10. Minardi
11. Arrows

Prost won't make it.

Minardi fan · 6 Jan 2002, 23:46 (Ref:194712)

1. Ferrari
2. Williams
3. McLaren
4. Sauber
5. Jordan
6. BAR
7. Renault
8. Jaguar
9. Minardi
10. Arrows
11. Toyota
12. Prost

jclab · 7 Jan 2002, 00:06 (Ref:194719)

hi everybody,
1-Ferrari
2-Williams
3-McLaren
4-Renault
5-Sauber
6-Jaguar
7-Bar
8-Jordan
9-Toyota
10-Minardi
11-Arrows
12-Prost(does not look good)

f1manoz · 7 Jan 2002, 01:15 (Ref:194730)

1.Williams
2.Ferrari
3.McLaren
4.Jordan
5.Renault
6.Sauber
7.Jaguar
8.Arrows
9.BAR
10.Toyota
11.Minardi
12.Prost (I have faith that they'll be there)

EERO · 7 Jan 2002, 01:54 (Ref:194742)

OoooH what Fun!

1) Williams
2) McLaren (DC as WDC as Ralf and JPM savaged each other's results)
3) Ferrari (Momentum will shift)
4) Jordan (Fisichella comes through, Sato is relevation of season)
5) BAR (Better than last season
6) Renault (Big improvement, weak line up)
7) Jaguar /Arrows (Cossies come through)
8) Sauber (2001 was the perfect alignment of lots of forces, it will not come true in 2002))
10) Toyota (big bucks beat small budget
11 Minardi
12 Prost , (I doubt thet'll make it.)

Gt_R · 7 Jan 2002, 02:29 (Ref:194747)

I would expect the top teams to close up more for next year. Hence, there would be some tracks where some teams are better than the others, and vice versa... But on general terms...i think it should look like this (and hope so it comes true)

1)Ferrari
2)Williams
3)Mclaren
4)Renault
5)Jordan
6)Jaguar
7)Sauber
8)Arrows
9)Toyota
10)BAR
11)Minardi
12)Prost

badoer fan · 7 Jan 2002, 07:59 (Ref:194774)

1. Williams
2. Ferrari
3. Renault
4. McLaren
5. Sauber
6. Jordan
7. BAR
8. Minardi (I have faith in Asiatech)
9. Jaguar
10. Arrows (just to annoy steve nielsen

)
11. Toyota (serves u right for nicking Gustav)
12. Prost (even if they do make it I can't see them being v good)

Marshal · 7 Jan 2002, 10:16 (Ref:194809)

Hmm... Crystal balls at this stage of the season, a great way of making yourself look silly. So

=1. Ferrari
=1. Williams
3. McLaren
4. Renault
=5. Jaguar
=5. BAR
=5. Jordan

All these 7 being pretty close, then a bit of a gap

8. Toyota
9. Sauber
10. Arrows

All Pretty close

11. Minardi

Another big gap

12. Prost, if they make it

Mr V · 8 Jan 2002, 03:19 (Ref:195301)

this is a tough 1 as i think it's not as clear cut as previous seasons!!

1. ferrari or williams
2. ferrari or williams
3. mclaren (definatly)
4. jordan/jag/bar/renault (hardest 1 to call)

8. sauber
9. toyota
10. arrows
11. minardi
12. prost (as they're on the entry list..wether they make it or not who knows!! but with all the effort minardi put in, minardi don't deserve to be last!!)

steve nielsen · 8 Jan 2002, 05:39 (Ref:195330)

1 Ferrari
2 Williams
3 Mclaren
4 Renault
5 Jordan
6 Arrows
7 Jaguar
8 BAR
9 Sauber
10 Toyota
11 Prost
12 Minardi

LucaBadoer · 8 Jan 2002, 17:45 (Ref:195565)

Quote:

Originally posted by steve nielsen
1 Ferrari
2 Williams
3 Mclaren

okay.

Quote:

Originally posted by steve nielsen
4 Renault

ooh...errr... I dunno about that one Stevie...

Quote:

Originally posted by steve nielsen
6 Arrows
12 Minardi

steve nielsen · 8 Jan 2002, 18:23 (Ref:195581)

Quote:

Originally posted by LucaBadoer

6 Arrows
12 Minardi

That's the difference between a works Cosworth and a Asiatech, better get used to it.

kristof14 · 8 Jan 2002, 18:58 (Ref:195616)

1: Ferrari
2: Williams
3: McLaren
4: Sauber
5: Renault (i believe they'll have reliability problems with these new fangled engines theyre using!)
6: Toyota
7: BAR
8: Jordan
9: Minardi
10: Jaguar
11: Arrows
12: Prost

positions 6-11 will all be very close together and probably not decided until the very last couple of races!

EERO · 8 Jan 2002, 19:07 (Ref:195629)

Quote:

Originally posted by steve nielsen

That's the difference between a works Cosworth and a Asiatech, better get used to it.

Don't forget the differences as well between Alex Yoong and HHF or Jos.

steve nielsen · 8 Jan 2002, 21:59 (Ref:195775)

Quote:

Originally posted by EERO

Don't forget the differences as well between Alex Yoong and HHF or Jos.

and the fact that they lost Brunner and Fernando does'nt help much either.

bulldogspirit · 9 Jan 2002, 12:48 (Ref:195953)

1. Williams
2. Ferrari
3. McLaren
4. Jordan
5. Renault
6. BAR
7. Jaguar
8. Sauber
9. Toyota
10. Arrows
11. Minardi
12. Prost (although they almost certainly won't make it IMO)

LucaBadoer · 9 Jan 2002, 12:59 (Ref:195958)

Quote:

Originally posted by steve nielsen

That's the difference between a works Cosworth and a Asiatech, better get used to it.

Look mate, I accept that Arrows will be a lot better next season (maybe scoring a point or two extra

) But Stevie, they're not gonna score more points than Jag, Sauber, BAR or Jordan :P

steve nielsen · 9 Jan 2002, 17:53 (Ref:196121)

Quote:

Originally posted by LucaBadoer

Look mate, I accept that Arrows will be a lot better next season (maybe scoring a point or two extra ) But Stevie, they're not gonna score more points than Jag, Sauber, BAR or Jordan :P

A new car, designed by an former Ferrari designer(Petrucci worked at Ferrari for 12 years) and Sergio Rinland(who designed the Sauber C20)
combined with a factory Cosworth engine, looks OK to me

Minardi fan · 9 Jan 2002, 18:11 (Ref:196130)

Can we just drop this please? Steve, I think you're assertions about Arrows are a little OTT - especially if you believe that they will get the same Cosworth which will be powering the Jags.

The Asiatech in the back of the Minardi will be better than last years - it has to be remembered it's a completely new engine, not the lump used by Arrows last season, and for Minardi, ANYTHING is better than that sodding European/Ford/Fondmetal monstrosity which has sat in the back of a superb chassis for the last four or five years.

When it comes down to it, it's going to be a close run thing between the second half of the grid - Jaguar, Arrows, Prost, Minardi, Renault and Toyota. I don't expect Minardi to finish last, nor Arrows - but I don't expect either of them to reach the top 8, let alone the top 6!

Are you honestly expecting Verstappen, a man who spends as much time on the track as off, and Bernoldi, who you seem to deem unable to drive even a sheep, to beat the likes of Sauber and their Ferrari engine? In the same breath I will state that I don't expect Minardi to do much either in 2002 - but I do believe that Yoong and whoever partners him will silence a lot of Minardi's critics, and that the PS-02 WILL score a point.

I'm just looking for a realistic outlook on things here - not the viewpoint you get when the Orange mist comes down...

Mr V · 9 Jan 2002, 18:15 (Ref:196133)

hey there mf, i really hope that minardi get that point aswell, and it may only be 1 point but it brings so much, respectability aswell as money.

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