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Old 17 Feb 2004, 19:17 (Ref:877393)   #1
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Season Odds - Micheal and Ferrari Favourite
With well over two weeks to go Micheal is still favourite to land the 2004 crown.

From William Hill:
Michael Schumacher 11/10
K Raikkonen 7/2
J P Montoya 7/2
Ralf Schumacher 11/2
R Barrichello 20/1
F Alonso 20/1
D Coulthard 20/1
J Trulli 66/1
J Button 80/1
1/3 Odds Place 1,2

Hmmm an each way on Rubens seens good...

Any other decent odds there?
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 19:18 (Ref:877394)   #2
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Alonso would be worth a swing I reckon....
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 19:19 (Ref:877395)   #3
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Constructors Championship (again from William Hill):

Ferrari 6/5
Williams 6/4
McLaren 7/2
Renault 16/1
Toyota 33/1
Sauber 50/1
Jordan 66/1
Jaguar 66/1
British American Racing 80/1
Minardi 300/1
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They don't rate Jaguar Racing then.
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 19:20 (Ref:877398)   #4
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Jordan and Jaguar are more favoured than BAR?!?
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 19:21 (Ref:877400)   #5
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Kicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridKicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
The odds are largely based on the past couple of seasons - although I'm not sure why BAR are so far out - I'd expect them to repeat last season's 5th overall at least.
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 19:28 (Ref:877412)   #6
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This no surprise really. Pretty much like football
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 19:28 (Ref:877413)   #7
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Damon should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Blimey, at 20/1 Alonso's worth a tenner of anyones money!
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 22:49 (Ref:877694)   #8
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f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
No surprises...
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Old 17 Feb 2004, 23:26 (Ref:877731)   #9
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Raven should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I'll be putting a hard earned £50 on TGF in the hope of jinxing him.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 03:05 (Ref:877896)   #10
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I reckon Barrichello might just be the dark horse in this....
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 09:59 (Ref:878088)   #11
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ralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Well its just the bookies playin safe i think.... Not surprise expect BAR below Jag!

Alonso... i wouldnt coun him or evn Rubens out...
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 12:34 (Ref:878234)   #12
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I was surprised that Alonso didnt get higher up in the order, that Renault has looked spectacular lately.

And with BAR that far back.... i cant trust these odds.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 22:48 (Ref:878779)   #13
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Minardi should have higher odds Frank williams that they were the 5th best team in testing, with Mclaren way off the pace.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 23:31 (Ref:878830)   #14
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Minardi should have higher odds Frank williams that they were the 5th best team in testing, with Mclaren way off the pace.

Can we have this again, in a way we can understand.
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Old 18 Feb 2004, 23:39 (Ref:878846)   #15
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Kirk has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Realistically, after DC the rest should not even be there, at least to win the WDC. As for constructors, after the top 4, no team has a chance of taking that. Don't these odds seem more intune to individual races rather than the overall crown?
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 00:13 (Ref:878882)   #16
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Bookies odds are always shorter than real life, otherwise they wouldn't make any money.
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 02:15 (Ref:878951)   #17
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I reckon Barrichello might just be the dark horse in this....
Makes a lot of business sense.... if the tusk-nosed williams fails, Bernie can make it a MS vs RB show culminating at Interlagos in October...
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 08:00 (Ref:879057)   #18
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Well..looking at testing times, the Walrus-BMW is unlikely to fail.

And i do resist being too optimistic about Ferrari's chances looking at the way BS is doing..
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If it was a horse race, that particular favourite would have the form:

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...hard to argue with!
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 12:50 (Ref:879301)   #20
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Ladbrokes have got Melbourne race odds:

M Schumacher _2/1
JP Montoya _3/1
R Schumacher _6/1
K Raikkonen _7/1
R Barrichello _7/1
F Alonso _8/1
D Coulthard _12/1
J Trulli _16/1
J Button _33/1
T Sato _66/1
C Da Matta _100/1
M Webber _100/1
O Panis _100/1
G Fisichella _125/1
N Heidfeld _125/1
F Massa _150/1
C Klien _250/1
G Pantano _250/1
G Bruni _500/1
Z Baumgartner _500/1

Some good bargains in that lot - Ralf is twice the odds of Juan, Button might be worth a bet for a podium...
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 13:36 (Ref:879353)   #21
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Certainly. Ralf is looking better for a bet than Montoya. I think Sato is a good one too, as well as Button. What about Trulli for a podium?
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 17:16 (Ref:879517)   #22
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Do you mean that Rafe's price looks better, or you think that he has more chance Adam?
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Old 19 Feb 2004, 17:30 (Ref:879527)   #23
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Ralf does not stand only half the chance that Montoya does - which is what the odds woud lead you to believe. Probably no more than a couple of per cent in it between those two.
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Nah, Coulthard looks like a better bet to me.
He always seems to do very well in Melbourne.
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Do you mean that Rafe's price looks better, or you think that he has more chance Adam?
Based on the price. I think he has a better than a 6/1 chance of winning the race.
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