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View Poll Results: Which Pairing Is Going To Win Bathurst?
#1 - Whincup/Dumbrell - Red Bull 888 Holden 7 8.54%
#2 - Tander/Luff - SP Tools HRT Holden 1 1.22%
#3 - Blanchard/Reindler - Cooldrive LDM Holden 0 0%
#4 - Walsh/Le Brocq - Erebus AMG 0 0%
#5 - Winterbottom/Owen - Pepsi Max PRA Ford 20 24.39%
#6 - Mostert/Waters - Pepsi Max PRA Ford 13 15.85%
#7 - T.Kelly/Buncombe - Carsales NisMoAu Nissan 1 1.22%
#8 - Bright/A.Jones - BOC BJR Holden 1 1.22%
#9 - Davison/Davison - Erebus AMG 0 0%
#14 - Coulthard/Youlden - Freightliner BJR Holden 1 1.22%
#15 - R.Kelly/Da.Russell - Jack Daniels NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#17 - Pye/Ambrose - XBOX DJR Ford 3 3.66%
#18 - Holdsworth/Bourdais - Preston Hire WP Holden 1 1.22%
#21 - Wood/M.Jones - GB Galvanising BJR Holden 0 0%
#22 - Courtney(?)/Perkins/Ingall - SP Tools HRT Holden 1 1.22%
#23 - Caruso/Fiore - Nissan NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#33 - McLaughlin/Premat - Wilson Security GRM Volvo 2 2.44%
#34 - Wall/Pither - Wilson Security GRM Volvo 1 1.22%
#47 - Slade/D'Alberto - SuperCheap Auto WP Holden 0 0%
#55 - Reynolds/Canto - Bottle O PRA Ford 10 12.20%
#62 - Dr.Russell/A.Russell - Plus Fitness GRM Holden 1 1.22%
#97 - van Gisbergen/Webb - Darrell Lea Tekno Holden 8 9.76%
#99 - Moffat/Douglas - Mack Trucks NisMoAu Nissan 0 0%
#111 - Heimgartner/Pedersen - SuperBlack PRA Ford 0 0%
#222 - Percat/Gavin - OPS Gateway LDM Holden 1 1.22%
#200 - De Silvestro/Gracie - Harvey Norman PRA Ford 4 4.88%
#888 - Lowndes/Richards - Red Bull 888 Holden 6 7.32%
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Old 24 Oct 2015, 05:31 (Ref:3585149)   #501
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did he pass the safety car which had a green light on when he went past? Yes. No doubt, even the mot red blinkered person ever agrees (roland danes) . Then a drive through applies.

somewhat concerened about some of the posters on here,
woops appears i wrote that wrong. try again

did he pass the safety car which had a green light on when he went past, No! therefore drive thorugh, its pretty simple,

he knew he was leading and a quick look is not enough
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Old 24 Oct 2015, 05:49 (Ref:3585153)   #502
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This part shouldn't factor in at all. Its how this category is run, so he (and others) arent doing anything wrong by flying past the SC car and crash scenes at full noise.

Is it right in general racing? No. Is it right in V8sc. Yes!
I know, I just hope that like the NASCAR drivers who realised the stupidity of "racing back to the caution" the drivers might act to stop this on their own.

I live in hope.
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Old 24 Oct 2015, 06:10 (Ref:3585157)   #503
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I know, I just hope that like the NASCAR drivers who realised the stupidity of "racing back to the caution" the drivers might act to stop this on their own.

I live in hope.
Haha thats a good one. What time is your standup show tonight?
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Thanks for that

After seeing the footage, i dont think a penalty was deserved at all, green lights flashing until he was less than 100 metres behind, and then turned off, by then its too late. Before seeing this i was 50% JW fault 50% Race controls fault. Seeing it now, its 100% race controls fault, and he shouldn't have had a penalty.

You can't really say it's race control's fault 100% either as race control relies on what the SC crew tell them. Sounds like it was handled poorly all round.
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You can't really say it's race control's fault 100% either as race control relies on what the SC crew tell them. Sounds like it was handled poorly all round.
Race control instruct the SC what to do. Being in that position was a stupid place. Other have said they usually sit on the top of mountain straight so all can see it, not over a blind hill.
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Race control instruct the SC what to do. Being in that position was a stupid place. Other have said they usually sit on the top of mountain straight so all can see it, not over a blind hill.
5 seconds from the time the safety car comes into view, thats not exactly a blind hill.

give the red shaded glasses a whipe
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Race control instruct the SC what to do. Being in that position was a stupid place. Other have said they usually sit on the top of mountain straight so all can see it, not over a blind hill.

To an extent but not when to turn green lights off for example. There could have been a blanket instruction to ease up on the hill that wasn't followed etc. like I said, you can't blame race control 100% nor from the footage JW - just poorly handled all round.
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To an extent but not when to turn green lights off for example. There could have been a blanket instruction to ease up on the hill that wasn't followed etc. like I said, you can't blame race control 100% nor from the footage JW - just poorly handled all round.
But i'm sure race control had an idea which cars were on that straight, and when to instruct the SC to turn the green light off

It should be default off, and you get a green if you're allowed to pass, but hey, V8s have never had a good record in this regard!
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Haha thats a good one. What time is your standup show tonight?
It happened in NASCAR.

Perhaps here we might see the drivers approach the officials re a rule change.

Of course they might not, but you wait to see the stink when a driver kills or seriously injured a marshal or a fellow competitor.
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A nice summary of the NASCAR experience.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raci...to_the_caution
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It should be default off, and you get a green if you're allowed to pass!

That's exactly how it works & what V8's have always done - seems the SC crew may have been slow to turn it off after the previous car - like I said mistakes all round by the sound of it.
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It happened in NASCAR.

Perhaps here we might see the drivers approach the officials re a rule change.

Of course they might not, but you wait to see the stink when a driver kills or seriously injured a marshal or a fellow competitor.
The NASCAR system wouldn't work here. The whole point of a yellow flag is for safety. Continuing to race is just pointless.

Code60 would work (For safety, but at the expense of V8SCs fabricated entertainment!)
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