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Old 28 Jul 2006, 16:29 (Ref:1666719)   #1
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Something else gets banned

I see that Super Aguri have joined the ranks of teams having something banned this year. They have been told at Hockenheim that their new tyre warmers are illegal as they are not blankets, but are contained in a box. By the wording of the regulation I don't think there is any argument.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/53432

However, Ferrari used a tyre warming box last year. Were the Ferrari boxes also banned eventually as I remember seeing them at a few GP's, or were the significantly different to be legal?
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Old 28 Jul 2006, 16:31 (Ref:1666720)   #2
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Old 28 Jul 2006, 17:15 (Ref:1666732)   #3
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According to GrandPrix.com, the Super Aguri tyre warmers used infrared lights to heat the tyres, whilst I believe the Ferrari 'box' operated in the same way to a conventional tyre warmer.

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Old 28 Jul 2006, 17:23 (Ref:1666734)   #4
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Why don't they just ban tyre warmers then? They are a pointless device!

Ah well, at least this won't impact on Super Aguri in any noteable way.
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Old 28 Jul 2006, 17:36 (Ref:1666742)   #5
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Ah well, at least this won't impact on Super Aguri in any noteable way.
On the contrary.... getting something banned puts them on par with Renault and Ferrari (in getting something banned terms...).... a huge achievement considering it's only their first car...
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Old 28 Jul 2006, 18:07 (Ref:1666757)   #6
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Banning tyre warmers altogether is worth considering, as there is no competitive advantage once everybody has them. However, they do increase safety, as they make it less likely for a driver to lose control on the opening lap.

Aguri's tyre warmers were quite clearly outside the existing rules however, so I hope they have no complaints.
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Old 29 Jul 2006, 02:48 (Ref:1666936)   #7
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I have no complaints about it. If it's illegal, it's illegal. Good on them for getting something banned- And in the first year in F1!
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Old 29 Jul 2006, 05:25 (Ref:1666969)   #8
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Why don't they just ban tyre warmers then? They are a pointless device!

Ah well, at least this won't impact on Super Aguri in any noteable way.
Well, they are not pointless at all. Their point is to warm the tyres...thus improving performance out of the "box".

It may not affect them in anyway that will particularly make us fall off of our seats, but they I am sure will notice.

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According to GrandPrix.com, the Super Aguri tyre warmers used infrared lights to heat the tyres...
That is pretty cool. Maybe it is just me, though, .

Regarding the calls for banning warmers, I am pretty sure they are gone for 2008 (not sure about 2007).
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Old 29 Jul 2006, 07:14 (Ref:1666994)   #9
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Regarding the calls for banning warmers, I am pretty sure they are gone for 2008 (not sure about 2007).
I sure hope not, I wouldn't like to see the results of a wet race around Spa with stone cold tyres...
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I sure hope not, I wouldn't like to see the results of a wet race around Spa with stone cold tyres...
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a huge achievement considering it's only their first car...
well not quite as 10% of it is still old fasioned Orange Arows..
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So to be quick out of the box, the tires were put in boxes that the rules state are outside of the box, the team gets it's ears boxed and so now the boxes are boxed up and tossed in the big box.
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 02:04 (Ref:1667515)   #14
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Old 30 Jul 2006, 10:58 (Ref:1667722)   #15
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So to be quick out of the box, the tires were put in boxes that the rules state are outside of the box, the team gets it's ears boxed and so now the boxes are boxed up and tossed in the big box.
hmmm...that's boxing clever.
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