Alfa Romeo to return to Formula 1?

[steve_r]

That logo was there last year IIRC.

[CTD]

Originally Posted by steve_r

That logo was there last year IIRC.

It was on some of the liveries. My mistake.

[Adam43]

Every year I'm disappointed there is no tic tac logo.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Every year I'm disappointed there is no tic tac logo.

When did Ferrari cease their association with Tic Tac?

[Adam43]

I'm not sure. It's probably not been on the car for ten years! Such a shame

[djinvicta]

Tic Tac 1999 to 2001

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by djinvicta

Tic Tac 1999 to 2001

Their logo also appeared on the Jordan 191.


Who knows maybe Tic Tac will return as a sponsor for Alfa-Romeo?

[chillibowl]

its popping up in a few places but there appears to be a rumour that FIAT are looking to buy Sauber with the intention to brand it as Alfa.

a throw away line near the end of a recent Saward blog post as well as a few other F1 websites (although they are not sites i usually go to for my news).

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2016...afe-georges-v/

other rumours on the interwebs are suggesting that Sauber lacks the money to race in China.

honestly i cant say i am surprised. after their break with BMW and flirting with a renewed Ferrari partnership under the new(ish) rules, Haas in two races have basically made it abundantly clear that Sauber have not been approaching F1 in the correct way.

tremendous respect for Peter Sauber and his team (even have respect for what Kaltenborn has tried to do) but i find myself hoping these rumours are true!

[Razor]

An Alfa Romeo-Sauber team does sound pretty tempting.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Razor

An Alfa Romeo-Sauber team does sound pretty tempting.

Sauber-Romeo sounds good; rolls off the tongue.

[S griffin]

It's probably very necessary to sell to a major manufacturer since Bernie won't put his hands in his pocket to help

[bjohnsonsmith]

From a cosmetic marketing point of view it's good. Renault have rejoined the ranks and if Alfa decide to partner Sauber, then from the outside it will look like another famous marque is back racing in F1.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by S griffin

It's probably very necessary to sell to a major manufacturer since Bernie won't put his hands in his pocket to help

There's the irony. He spouts off about it being a manufacturer dominated sport but they're the only ones who can afford it.

People can say but what about Haas? It's pretty clear Ferrari have played a huge hand in that team hitting the ground running.

We ain't gonna see any true independents come in anytime soon we're just going to keep losing them.

[CTD]

Originally Posted by chunterer

There's the irony. He spouts off about it being a manufacturer dominated sport but they're the only ones who can afford it.

People can say but what about Haas? It's pretty clear Ferrari have played a huge hand in that team hitting the ground running.

We ain't gonna see any true independents come in anytime soon we're just going to keep losing them.

Williams is doing pretty good? (but been in the game for many years, with some poor performing years)

[Mekola]

I hear they could take Sauber's entry. Does it have a ground to be serious at that rumour?

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by CTD

Williams is doing pretty good? (but been in the game for many years, with some poor performing years)

Are they? Frank is one of Bernie's old mates so they will always be around (thankfully)

F1 is not viable for a truly independent team in the current climate. No chance.

[Formulahistory]

Originally Posted by Mekola

I hear they could take Sauber's entry. Does it have a ground to be serious at that rumour?

I think that rumours are not very serious...

[Razor]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Sauber-Romeo sounds good; rolls off the tongue.

Sounds as sexy as my missus' name

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Razor

Sounds as sexy as my missus' name

What, Sheila?

[BSchneiderFan]

While I'd like to see Alfa back in Formula 1, I'd be sorry to see the Sauber name go. They've done pretty well for an independent team over the years; but they must be attractive to a manufacturer wanting a quick way in because of the BMW-era infrastructure. We'll see if anything comes of this - would Alfa end up effectively as a Ferrari junior team?

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

While I'd like to see Alfa back in Formula 1, I'd be sorry to see the Sauber name go. They've done pretty well for an independent team over the years; but they must be attractive to a manufacturer wanting a quick way in because of the BMW-era infrastructure. We'll see if anything comes of this - would Alfa end up effectively as a Ferrari junior team?

Alongside Haas!!

[knighty]

Without a shadow of a doubt Alfa would be another Ferrari B-team, and on that basis I think Alfa would be better served doing a WEC program in LMP1......Alfa in F1 sounds nice in principle, but in reality they will never be allowed to win as long as Ferrari are on track, which in my opinion is just BS and just making up the numbers......Alfa-LMP1, now that would be epic......F1 is just a mess and honestly I hope it crashes and burns, then something sensible will rise from the ashes without BE's involvement.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by knighty

Without a shadow of a doubt Alfa would be another Ferrari B-team, and on that basis I think Alfa would be better served doing a WEC program in LMP1......Alfa in F1 sounds nice in principle, but in reality they will never be allowed to win as long as Ferrari are on track, which in my opinion is just BS and just making up the numbers......Alfa-LMP1, now that would be epic......F1 is just a mess and honestly I hope it crashes and burns, then something sensible will rise from the ashes without BE's involvement.

Don't forget that Ferrari are no longer a part of the FIAT/Chrysler group, so there is still the possibility that Alfa could remain independent. The only tangible link between the two is that Marchionne remains CEO of both entities.

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

so there is still the possibility that Alfa could remain independent.

If the launch of the Giulia is anything to go by they would probably not have their car ready until the last race of the season!

[GT6]

F1 is expensive and with the links to the red boys it could be very difficult for alpha to actually gain anything out of the huge amounts they would need to invest in even getting to the mid field, but if the people at the top are real petrol heads then having a race programme is sometimes to tempting to ignore