Holden Motorsport Closed!!!! - Page 4

**GTRMagic** · 23 Jan 2017, 06:57 (Ref:3704395)

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Originally Posted by Just Do It!

Where has PJ gone??

Story Here

PS2244 · 24 Jan 2017, 01:02 (Ref:3704619)

For anyone interested Supercars said in an article that they're building the gen 2 engine in america

peckstar · 24 Jan 2017, 01:05 (Ref:3704620)

Gen2 Commodore render emerges

PS2244 · 24 Jan 2017, 01:12 (Ref:3704621)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Gen2 Commodore render emerges

That looks awesome

Axeman444 · 24 Jan 2017, 03:07 (Ref:3704638)

Its a render, from a bloke who previously released a render for the Mustang, and he has an affiliation with DJRTP. It's not official in anyway. Scott mustn't have any holidays booked or ssMedia has no work, and he is punching some homework out to increase his exposure (read: free advertising). Slow news day at Supercars and Speedcafe obviously.

peckstar · 24 Jan 2017, 03:20 (Ref:3704641)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

Its a render, from a bloke who previously released a render for the Mustang, and he has an affiliation with DJRTP. It's not official in anyway. Scott mustn't have any holidays booked or ssMedia has no work, and he is punching some homework out to increase his exposure (read: free advertising). Slow news day at Supercars and Speedcafe obviously.

yeah its all in the article

of interest from the article

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While details of the engine have not yet been confirmed publicly, a Holden insider told supercars.com the engine was tested on a dyno in the last fortnight with a working group established in North America, after an estimated 5.5 thousand hours of work on the project.

shame on Suipercars discussing new vehicles in the off season

Backagain · 24 Jan 2017, 05:05 (Ref:3704654)

I've got an idea, with all the modern cars looking so similar, it's hard to tell an Opel (OK Commodore) from a Kia from a Volvo, perhaps they could use a generic body and just paint on the highlights, I bet nobody has thought of that before. Oh wait........

Umai Naa · 24 Jan 2017, 05:18 (Ref:3704656)

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Originally Posted by Backagain

I've got an idea, with all the modern cars looking so similar, it's hard to tell an Opel (OK Commodore) from a Kia from a Volvo, perhaps they could use a generic body and just paint on the highlights, I bet nobody has thought of that before. Oh wait........

That concept has since been rectified in NASCAR.

Not much is shared between the three makes, with regards to the sheet metal these days.

Samwhk · 24 Jan 2017, 07:47 (Ref:3704682)

Looks like a Mazda 6 with Commodore written down the side.

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fomoco · 24 Jan 2017, 10:05 (Ref:3704710)

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Originally Posted by Samwhk

Looks like a Mazda 6 with Commodore written down the side.

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You could include a couple of other makes out of Asia, and if you did compare a few Euro's and some new Us designs , they all tend to have a similar shape just a few cosmetic fronts, and rears to differentiate the makes.

As we see now, most Auto manufacturers are linked in certain cars, vans, sharing the same platform,( floor pan,chassis etc) , for instance
VW Group, whats the main difference , with Audi, Skoda and VW sedans,
It just makes sense to to run the same basics , with some different lights and grilles. Renault , Fiat etc are doing the same

Hyundai, Kia, Toyota , Suzuki, some of the Chinese, and now some of the USA, when you look at what they are planning for 2020

I do remember as an employee of the old General Motors Holden, they where looking at the J Car philosophy in the late 70's , A standard platform world wide with cosmetic changes to front and rear to suit the tastes of the local market

So it took 40 + years , but looks like it is happening

Mixer · 24 Jan 2017, 10:08 (Ref:3704711)

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Originally Posted by fomoco

I do remember as an employee of the old General Motors Holden, they where looking at the J Car philosophy in the late 70's , A standard platform world wide with cosmetic changes to front and rear to suit the tastes of the local market

That was the Camira mate!

Then later the Cruze I guess!

But if you're suggesting there is some huge model sharing going on between various makes? You're way off the mark.

Trends make cars of the same era look similar.

Umai Naa · 24 Jan 2017, 11:27 (Ref:3704726)

You can only do so much with a 3-box sedan bodyshape.

GHOGH · 24 Jan 2017, 11:31 (Ref:3704728)

Bargs has been going with the swap a panel concept in nz this summer.
http://tinyurl.com/jyo4xl2

**GTRMagic** · 25 Jan 2017, 03:32 (Ref:3704905)

All the jobs previously undertaken by the small group at Holden Motorsport, in supporting teams in so many areas.. who has now taken on that responsibility?

And who has taken on homologating engines & chassis & aero for the new model, and has the gravitas to have all of those areas signed off within Holden to assure alignment & ongoing support?

Is 888 now the supplier of all this technical information & services for the whole Holden field?

mayhem · 25 Jan 2017, 03:46 (Ref:3704907)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

All the jobs previously undertaken by the small group at Holden Motorsport, in supporting teams in so many areas.. who has now taken on that responsibility?

Does that responsibility exist anymore?

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

And who has taken on homologating engines & chassis & aero for the new model, and has the gravitas to have all of those areas signed off within Holden to assure alignment & ongoing support?

Am I wrong to assume Triple 8 will be the ones wholly and solely responsible for these type of HMS issues? At a cost to others, of course....

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Is 888 now the supplier of all this technical information & services for the whole Holden field?

I'd guess that's how it's going to work, Uncle Roland will clear your cheque and help you out...

**GTRMagic** · 25 Jan 2017, 04:21 (Ref:3704910)

Does Uncle Roland know that he is doing that just yet? Or are the teams?
Perhaps not..

Forda · 25 Jan 2017, 22:48 (Ref:3705099)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

All the jobs previously undertaken by the small group at Holden Motorsport, in supporting teams in so many areas.. who has now taken on that responsibility?

And who has taken on homologating engines & chassis & aero for the new model, and has the gravitas to have all of those areas signed off within Holden to assure alignment & ongoing support?

Is 888 now the supplier of all this technical information & services for the whole Holden field?

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Does Uncle Roland know that he is doing that just yet? Or are the teams?
Perhaps not..

Looks like Holden want a similar arrangement to what they originally had with the racing division of Brock's HDT operation.

Which if so, suggests the Walkinshaw operation, which replaced the Brock-HDT factory arrangement, has been something of a disappointment, or even a failure.

It would sure be interesting to know all the goings-on within the decisions which were made.

Axeman444 · 27 Jan 2017, 21:16 (Ref:3705656)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

yeah its all in the article

of interest from the article

shame on Suipercars discussing new vehicles in the off season

So do a story on the engine rather than advertise someones press release of their abilities in graphic design

**GTRMagic** · 9 Feb 2017, 02:15 (Ref:3711085)

Mr McNamara apparently left Holden as head of Motorsport & Sponsorship on Friday 3rd February, future not announced..

Umai Naa · 9 Feb 2017, 02:22 (Ref:3711087)

I read somewhere the other day, that Peter Hughes, HMS in-house designer, is also no longer employed.

**GTRMagic** · 9 Feb 2017, 02:28 (Ref:3711089)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

I read somewhere the other day, that Peter Hughes, HMS in-house designer, is also no longer employed.

The impact of this stuff isn't today, or tomorrow, or next year... but in 5 years time...

Shortsightedness all over...

Compromised · 9 Feb 2017, 02:32 (Ref:3711090)

Heard some rumblings that a certain fairly competitive team has been told no more Holden support. Is this happening with all non-T8 teams?

**GTRMagic** · 9 Feb 2017, 02:37 (Ref:3711093)

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Originally Posted by Compromised

Heard some rumblings that a certain fairly competitive team has been told no more Holden support. Is this happening with all non-T8 teams?

There isn't anyone in the building to provide support

Be interesting to see what windscreen signage is on the LDM cars this year..

Umai Naa · 9 Feb 2017, 02:54 (Ref:3711099)

I believe that Holden windscreen banner was paying Mr Percat's wages, courtesy of Mr McNamara.

#8, #14, and #21 only saw minor Holden signage throughout last season, if at all.

#4 and #9 also carried the branding, but it was mentioned by Betty K, that they did kick the tin to some extent.

**GTRMagic** · 9 Feb 2017, 05:49 (Ref:3711129)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Mr McNamara apparently left Holden as head of Motorsport & Sponsorship on Friday 3rd February, future not announced..

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